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    Post Official and supported parts of Tumbleweed; questions

    Hi,
    I was upgrading from 13.2 to Tumbleweed, no total success.

    Where can I find the list/description of the officially existing (working) and supported parts of the Tumbleweed (mainly servers, desktops and semi-system parts - for example logging -)?
    If some parts already are not supported, can I deleted them painlessly?
    How can I install (or where can I find) an proper nvidia driver?

    Thanks for your help

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    Default Re: Official and supported parts of Tumbleweed; questions

    Every package in Tumbleweed is supported, otherwise it would not be in the repo. At least that's how I understand the policy.

    And regarding your nvidia issue: there is a mountain of complaints about nvidia's linux drivers, they are, well, suboptimal. I have no idea about a nvidia driver for kernel 4.3.0, please consider searching at software.opensuse.org .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie170 View Post
    Every package in Tumbleweed is supported, otherwise it would not be in the repo. At least that's how I understand the policy.

    And regarding your nvidia issue: there is a mountain of complaints about nvidia's linux drivers, they are, well, suboptimal. I have no idea about a nvidia driver for kernel 4.3.0, please consider searching at software.opensuse.org .
    Hmmm... none of the desktops are worked after upgrade (and I can not install some of them also)... and there are concurrent applications such as syslog subsystems.
    If a program works it is not sure that it can be cooperate with others... so the list needs which are working after the upgrade.
    There is NO nvidia driver in the repos after upgrade... but I have a working one from before the upgrade. The X server managing is mysterious. If an operating system can not handle the peripherals (mainly the display) then it is a bit useless... why don't care they about it?

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    Default Re: Official and supported parts of Tumbleweed; questions

    You have to compile the hard way in Tumbleweed for NVIDIA driver since the kernel changes so often.

    You can not use a NVIDIA driver compiled for an older kernel on a newer kernel.

    Show us zypper lr -d

    Please use the code tags for computer output to stop the fourm editor from reformatting the text. (# in the menu bar above the edit window)

    If you mix OS versions you can have a huge number of problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    You have to compile the hard way in Tumbleweed for NVIDIA driver since the kernel changes so often.

    You can not use a NVIDIA driver compiled for an older kernel on a newer kernel.

    Show us zypper lr -d

    Please use the code tags for computer output to stop the fourm editor from reformatting the text. (# in the menu bar above the edit window)

    If you mix OS versions you can have a huge number of problems
    I upgraded 13.2 to Tumbleweed. The zypper could do it.
    I recompiled the driver, mkinitrd and reboot. Successful.
    After this the KDE and Plasma5 crashes (I can not install other desktops, IceWM works).
    I sent the developer's crash list to the KDE.
    It worked with the 13.2.
    I have no any other idea.

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    Default Re: Official and supported parts of Tumbleweed; questions

    Well tumbleweed is tricky since it constantly changes. It really is not for people that want a constant stable experience. Stick with 13.2 or try leap

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    Well tumbleweed is tricky since it constantly changes. It really is not for people that want a constant stable experience. Stick with 13.2 or try leap
    Hmmm. I should downgrade to 13.2 or change to Leap from now existing/upgraded Tumbleweed change to the Leap repositories?
    I am full of errors after upgrade (I could fix only the non-working syslog).
    Is it legal upgrading from 13.2 to Tumbleweed at all? The zypper let it for me...
    I am afraid of if I change to an untested upgrade environment than my system will become totally wrong and deteriorated... it is an existing system with lots of useful programs and data...

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    Well it is totally legal to do what you will. You do understand that in generla downgrade is not supported and you may run into problems because some config files may have changed.

    So in general you set the basic repos back to 13.2 and do a zypper dup. But first to be sure show us zypper lr -d You may need to do in several steps first the base repos then any special repos you may use.

    To move to leap you set the repos to leap and do the same. To be honest at the moment 13.2 is far more stable then leap appears to be. But them 13.2 at this stage was a little wobbly also

    When riding the cutting edge prepare to bleed

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    Well it is totally legal to do what you will. You do understand that in generla downgrade is not supported and you may run into problems because some config files may have changed.

    So in general you set the basic repos back to 13.2 and do a zypper dup. But first to be sure show us zypper lr -d You may need to do in several steps first the base repos then any special repos you may use.

    To move to leap you set the repos to leap and do the same. To be honest at the moment 13.2 is far more stable then leap appears to be. But them 13.2 at this stage was a little wobbly also

    When riding the cutting edge prepare to bleed
    I have changed the repos to the Tumbleweed repositories, of course. The upgrade went smoothly... but the result...

    Pfff... then where to? No graphical environments (but IceWM yes), no usable nvidia driver (I think), the MTA setup results system crash and NO reboot possibility... I am no so brave to test the whole system...
    13.2, Leap or Tumbleweed? The suse guys did not let real choose for me after 13.2 if I want some user servers and setups...

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    Default Re: Official and supported parts of Tumbleweed; questions

    gogalthorpe's advice was to post
    Code:
    zypper lr -d
    here if you wanted advice before doing things.

    You did not post it to get help, but preferred to do changes yourself. Now the results are not what you want. And you ask for help again (I assume). Thus again you are asked to post
    Code:
    zypper lr -d
    We realy can not provide adequate help when you do not give us the information we think we need to help you.
    Henk van Velden

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