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    Default KDE Plasma 5.4 Online Accounts.

    Hi everyone,

    Few questions about online accounts... since 5.4 update i've noticed in System Settings "Online Accounts" menu icon. But it seems to me that it does... well.. nothing. I can't add new accounts, nor can i see my existing ones... Only way to add any sort of account is still via akonadi console.
    Does anyone have "Online Account" working, maybe there is something broken with my setup?...
    And one more question - as i can remember in Gnome Online Accounts one could setup "Corporate Account" (connecting with MS Exchange). Is it possible in KDE too?

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    Default Re: KDE Plasma 5.4 Online Accounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclingGeorgian View Post
    Few questions about online accounts... since 5.4 update i've noticed in System Settings "Online Accounts" menu icon.
    Where exactly?
    I don't have that here.

    Maybe it comes from KDE Telepathy?

    But it seems to me that it does... well.. nothing. I can't add new accounts, nor can i see my existing ones...
    If it is the one from KTelepathy, it might be related to this (packaging) problem.
    https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=941968

    Make sure you have telepathy-accounts-signon installed. It is not available in Tumbleweed yet, but you could get it from KDE:Applications.

    Or maybe you miss some other KTP package. I'm not sure what's needed as I never tried it yet, though.

    Only way to add any sort of account is still via akonadi console.
    KDEPIM is still KDE4 based, so its configuration module doesn't show up in systemsettings5. Use "Configure KDE4 Applications" (systemsettings, without 5) if you have it installed, or "kcmshell4 akonadi".
    That module has been removed completely in the KF5 port though, which is not in Tumbleweed yet.

    And one more question - as i can remember in Gnome Online Accounts one could setup "Corporate Account" (connecting with MS Exchange). Is it possible in KDE too?
    No idea. Never used that GNOME feature, and never used MS Exchange (or "Corporate Accounts") either.
    But maybe KTelepathy would allow it.
    Last edited by wolfi323; 07-Sep-2015 at 04:18.

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    Default Re: KDE Plasma 5.4 Online Accounts.

    Re. Exchange accounts: so far there's no support in KDE/KF5, there never has been. IMHO a missing feature if you have a suite like Kontact. Evolution does deal with Exchange.
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    Hi guys... sorry for not checking back here for so long.... anyway...
    @wolfi323
    Don know...maybe "system settings" is incorrect name for it, but if you open app menu and then open "Configure Desktop" applet, which has window name "System Settings" (hence my confusion), you will see there in "Personalization" block "Online Accounts".
    And when i saw "Online Account" i got flash back from Gnome env and got excited about possible MSXchange integration in kdepim and the fact that all account would be in one place.... But ... excitement was for nothing ... since it doesn't really work...yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclingGeorgian View Post
    Hi guys... sorry for not checking back here for so long.... anyway...
    @wolfi323
    Don know...maybe "system settings" is incorrect name for it, but if you open app menu and then open "Configure Desktop" applet, which has window name "System Settings" (hence my confusion),
    The application is called "System Settings", but openSUSE changes the menu entry name to "Configure Desktop".

    you will see there in "Personalization" block "Online Accounts".
    That's what I wanted to know. Still, I don't have that here.

    Again, do you have KTelepathy installed?

    And when i saw "Online Account" i got flash back from Gnome env and got excited about possible MSXchange integration in kdepim and the fact that all account would be in one place.... But ... excitement was for nothing ... since it doesn't really work...yet...
    Yeah. It's probably not what you imagined it to be...
    If it's the KTelepathy's account config module, this is about chat/Instant Messaging accounts or even voice over IP/video conferencing.
    See also https://community.kde.org/KTp/FAQ
    Last edited by wolfi323; 11-Sep-2015 at 17:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    That's what I wanted to know. Still, I don't have that here.
    This is strange... if we are running same plasma (kde) on the same base (tumbleweeg) how is it possible that i do have an entry and you don't.

    Again, do you have KTelepathy installed?
    No, i do not... and these "online accounts" are not telepathy related, but the applet explicitly informs me that it is for google, owncloud etc (see pic), hence my flashback to Gnome "online accounts".

    Yeah. It's probably not what you imagined it to be...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclingGeorgian View Post
    This is strange... if we are running same plasma (kde) on the same base (tumbleweeg) how is it possible that i do have an entry and you don't.
    Because I didn't install the corresponding package?

    Also, I'm not running Tumbleweed, but 13.2. I haven't looked whether it is there in a default Tumbleweed installation...

    No, i do not... and these "online accounts" are not telepathy related, but the applet explicitly informs me that it is for google, owncloud etc (see pic), hence my flashback to Gnome "online accounts".
    Hm, when I google for "systemsettings5 online accounts", I only find bug reports against KTelepathy.
    And that picture doesn't ring a bell either.

    Please run this to find out where it comes from:
    Code:
    grep -R "Online Accounts" /usr/share/kservices5
    Then run "rpm -qf filepath" (replace "filepath" with the filename/path that grep spat out) to find what package it is in.

    It's probably "kaccounts-integration" though, as I suspect now (which I don't have installed here).
    And that *is* actually part of KTelepathy.
    From https://community.kde.org/KTp/Setting_up_KAccounts :
    KAccounts integration

    This is a support library, a kcm module and a daemon running in the background.


    KAccounts providers

    This are the providers and services that at this very moment we provide support for. For example in Facebook we support Chat, Contacts Calendar...
    In that case, make sure that you also have "kaccounts-providers" installed, this contains the actual provider files.

    PS: that package (kaccounts-providers) contains 4 providers at the moment: Google, Twitter, Identi.ca, and Facebook.
    Last edited by wolfi323; 15-Sep-2015 at 03:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    It's probably "kaccounts-integration" though, as I suspect now (which I don't have installed here).
    And that *is* actually part of KTelepathy.
    From https://community.kde.org/KTp/Setting_up_KAccounts :
    In that case, make sure that you also have "kaccounts-providers" installed, this contains the actual provider files.
    You are right... it is part of kaccounts-integration... and installing providers did the "trick"... although, to be honest, i really do not understant how these two are not being installed as deps of each other... i mean, what's a point having kaccounts-integration without a providers?... but anyway... thanks for sticking long enough with me and helping getting to the bottom of this.

    PS.. at this moment google is only provider ... waiting patiently for the rest (specially owncloud and MSExchange)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclingGeorgian View Post
    although, to be honest, i really do not understant how these two are not being installed as deps of each other... i mean, what's a point having kaccounts-integration without a providers?...
    Might be an oversight in the packaging...

    In theory, you probably don't necessarily need kaccounts-providers, as you or other packages could provide your/their own.
    It should at least be recommended though I suppose.

    PS.. at this moment google is only provider ...
    Right, google is the only "provider", but the package also contains these files in /etc/signon-ui/webkit-options.d/:
    accounts.google.com.conf
    api.twitter.com.conf
    identi.ca.conf
    www.facebook.com.conf

    So there is *some* support for the others I mentioned.
    I don't know any details though, as I never even tried to install KTp yet, not even the KDE4 version.

    waiting patiently for the rest (specially owncloud and MSExchange)
    No idea how likely MSExchange support is, or in what timeframe it would be added.

    At least owncloud support has been added a few days ago, and should be part of 15.12 (to be released in December) then:
    https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kaccounts-providers.git&a=commit&h=78f998cae87a303fa7d9c0012fb55848949ecb59

    PS: The Facebook provider has been disabled, because necessary support has been removed by Facebook themselves:
    https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kaccounts-providers.git&a=commit&h=d18e83a32ad8697244f94f092719cde9d47a90ad

    And some services are just missing at the moment because Akonadi hasn't been ported to Qt5 (it is now, so they probably will get reenabled soon):
    https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kaccount...0b0c095e672e1a
    Last edited by wolfi323; 15-Sep-2015 at 03:41.

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