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    Default Big Big probs with leap anyone help...

    Having tried to install leap for the last 7 hours I have given up, shame
    really.

    Here in no particular order is the problem, first my setup though:

    Toshiba 4 core Intel laptop 8gigs ram 1Tbyte drive sda with 13.2 on only
    using uefi. external usb keyboard that is internally lit and usb mouse.

    External 2 Tbytes USB3 drive sdb that has been running Tweed for quite a
    while like it a lot, I booted by changing the order in bios and from uefi to
    standard. install was longish in the hardware detection but not bad.

    All hunky dorey there, all hardware recognised superb performance, no
    complaints.

    Yep here it comes....

    Thought I would wipe and try 42.1.

    D/L`d this morning imaged onto 8gig stick all checked fine.

    booted from stick, three dots stopped and no further action, now I had seen
    about the long time so flipped console and saw that iwas getting there BUT
    for over an hour!!! I mean WTF is a first time person sat there watching
    nothing going to do Ctrl+Alt+DEL.

    Anyway it eventually deigned to go through the install, I let it do it all
    except I had to change the partitioning from sda drive to sdb no biggy I
    knew I would have to. I told it to format the root partition which was ext4
    and keep it ext4 ( I have had bad times with btrfs )

    came to boot and the sda uefi menu gave me the option of booting both
    systems, here we go I thought very smooth, unfortunately it could not find
    the drive because there were no usb modules loaded yet.

    Thought I would give it another go at installing and change to normal boot
    in bios with usb as top booter, not a sausage the same thing but different
    version so that was 4 hours, d/loaded a fresh image ( just in case ) and
    there is no way I can get this thing to boot as it is an infinite loop, need
    usb module but usb module is on usb drive... so now I have just got back
    into 13.2 had a look at the external drive and it was even formatted, there
    are still files there from weeks ago alongside the new ones. Oh I could not
    even get the rescue disk to see the drive to fix it and install a normal grub
    on there.

    Am I pi55ed you bet, that was 6 hours wasted, at least I will have Tweed on
    there in the next hour.

    If anyone can shed some light while I put the installer on a stick please
    do.

    Thanks, no that is not a smile that is a grimace :-)

    Cheers.

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    Default Re: Big Big probs with leap anyone help...

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 16:43:06 +0000, Baskitcaise wrote:

    > Having tried to install leap for the last 7 hours I have given up, shame
    > really.


    Hey, Mark -

    Remember that this is still very early days for Leap - these are
    milestone releases, so anything you run into like this really should have
    a bug logged for it so it can be tracked and resolved.

    Jim



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    Default Re: Big Big probs with leap anyone help...

    Jim Henderson donned his tin foil hat and penned:

    > On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 16:43:06 +0000, Baskitcaise wrote:
    >
    >> Having tried to install leap for the last 7 hours I have given up, shame
    >> really.

    >
    > Hey, Mark -
    >
    > Remember that this is still very early days for Leap - these are
    > milestone releases, so anything you run into like this really should have
    > a bug logged for it so it can be tracked and resolved.
    >
    > Jim
    >
    >
    >


    Hi Jim,

    I have tried again to install and got the same results so took a walk, bit
    of fresh air helped.

    I remember having the same problem with 13.2 or 3 I think even though this
    is all different hardware and I filed a bug report then.

    However Gurgle does not remember and it has a better memory than this old`un
    here does :-)

    If I remember right I had to edit something in grub or a kernel param, but
    the situation is slightly different now as I cannot get to the o/s on the
    lappy unless I let grub start and quickly choose the laptop version because
    now if I try without the external plugged in there is no boot just a drop to
    a grub prompt.

    I managed to get the journal log which just loses the drive half way through
    the kernel load, I am sure one of the lads here told me to add a kernel
    param but first I will have to get my uefi boot working on sda ( at the moment
    it will be a bit awkward carrying all this lot around :-) just to pick up
    mail. That is no problem I hope.

    Anyway a good cup of java and maybe some of your nice chillies might get the
    grey cells going.

    I am just annoyed with myself for not remembering how I did it last time.

    Cheers matey, catch ya later it looks like it might be a long night.

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    Default Re: Big Big probs with leap anyone help... update.

    Baskitcaise donned his tin foil hat and penned:

    > I am just annoyed with myself for not remembering how I did it last time.
    >
    > Cheers matey, catch ya later it looks like it might be a long night.
    >


    Star date 03:30 am next day here in Wales :-)

    Things went from bad to worse after I posted that last and this is for
    anyone who might get in the same situation.

    I tried one last ime and still no joy so pulled the external out of the loop
    went back to 13.2 on internal and nothing, zip, nada.

    Not even a boot screen, just a gnu message and a bash prompt gently flashing
    I immediately thought there might be something hardware wise on all this
    lovely new hardware.

    Booted with my trusty live usb stick and all seemed fine ran mem checks and
    every thingso plugged the external in and tried to boot, when it came to the
    boot screen for 42 on a whim I chose 13.2 instead and it booted fine.

    So now with the external out it would not boot but with it in it would, I
    tried re-installing the bootloader using yast which went alright and re-
    booted and nothing but a prompt plug the external in and it would boot 13.2
    off the internal.

    I have been round the interwebs, read reams of docs about uefi and posts but
    could not seem to get anywhere at all, the file structure on sda3 (my / ) was
    OK everything in boot was as far as I could see OK the EFI fat partition had
    all the right files in all the right places I even tried to manually edit
    individual parts of the disk as I thought it could be rooted, I could not
    see how because I had not had 13.2 running for weeks, had not thrown it
    across the room in temper because 42 was not playing for me or anything like
    that but it would only boot it if the external was in and I used its loader.

    I had even thought about rootkits.

    Now here is the reason for the long post and it is praise for one of you lot
    from way back in 2012 "caf" had helped a few people with a similar but not
    the same problem, his fix did not help me but one of the posts mentioned
    something about "GRUB" not playing nice with uefi and BINGO! I thought I had
    better check and lo and behold it had got onto my 13.2 install, I do
    remember that when I had gone first back to 13.2 when 42 would not work that
    there was a load of updates waiting and it must have got on there and I took
    no notice, I just did not know about the problems and when I was looking in
    /boot and the EFI partition saw "GRUB" just assumed it was supposed to be
    there, just uninstalled it and everything is fine again, I can boot 13.2 with
    or without the external.

    So thank you caf.

    42 still will not boot but that can wait I wonder if I try and install again
    it might :-)

    So I may be old and slow like the proverbial tortoise but I got there in the
    end and have learned a lot about bootloaders I did not know before.

    Cheers lads and ladies. Good night or morning should I say.

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    Mark
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