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    akash vishwakarma NNTP User

    Default NNTP: Replied to a thread - got mailer daemon from Gmail

    I just replied to a thread
    https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...-of-grub-code/
    The post didn't appear on web interface. Later got mailer daemon with
    contents,
    Code:
    Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    
    robin_listas@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com
    <mailto:robin_listas@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>
    
    Technical details of permanent failure:
    DNS Error: Address resolution of no-mx.forums.microfocus.com
    <http://no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>. failed: Domain name not found
    I'm using thunderbird as my newsreader app. I've also configured to read
    gmail emails. My default smtp server is smtp.googlemail.com. The
    openSUSE forum newsgroup is also configured to use it as smtp. Maybe
    that's reason for failure.

    Earlier I had used my email id as email address for newsgroup. Now I've
    changed it to vishy@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com
    <mailto:robin_listas@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>

    What's the problem with my settings? What should be smtp server.?

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    Default Re: NNTP: Replied to a thread - got mailer daemon from Gmail

    On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:16:30 +0000, akash vishwakarma wrote:

    > I just replied to a thread
    > https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...ed-to-recover-

    generic-MBR-code-instead-of-grub-code/
    > The post didn't appear on web interface. Later got mailer daemon with
    > contents,
    Code:
    Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    >
    > robin_listas@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com
    > <mailto:robin_listas@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>
    >
    > Technical details of permanent failure:
    > DNS Error: Address resolution of no-mx.forums.microfocus.com
    > <http://no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>. failed: Domain name not
    > found
    >
    > I'm using thunderbird as my newsreader app. I've also configured to read
    > gmail emails. My default smtp server is smtp.googlemail.com. The
    > openSUSE forum newsgroup is also configured to use it as smtp. Maybe
    > that's reason for failure.
    >
    > Earlier I had used my email id as email address for newsgroup. Now I've
    > changed it to vishy@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com
    > <mailto:robin_listas@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>
    >
    > What's the problem with my settings? What should be smtp server.?


    NNTP doesn't use an SMTP server. If you got an e-mail bounce, you did
    your reply incorrectly - if I remember Thunderbird correctly, "reply"
    does e-mail, and "follow-up" (or something like that) posts a reply in
    the newsgroup.

    Jim



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    Default Re: NNTP: Replied to a thread - got mailer daemon from Gmail

    On 05/27/2015 11:21 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
    > NNTP doesn't use an SMTP server. If you got an e-mail bounce, you did
    > your reply incorrectly - if I remember Thunderbird correctly, "reply"
    > does e-mail, and "follow-up" (or something like that) posts a reply in
    > the newsgroup.


    Yes, and the follow-up keyboard shortcut is Ctrl+r, so that's nice.


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    Default Re: NNTP: Replied to a thread - got mailer daemon from Gmail

    On 2015-05-27 19:16, akash vishwakarma wrote:
    > I just replied to a thread
    > https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...-of-grub-code/
    > The post didn't appear on web interface. Later got mailer daemon with
    > contents,
    Code:
    Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    >
    > robin_listas@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com
    > <mailto:robin_listas@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>
    >
    > Technical details of permanent failure:
    > DNS Error: Address resolution of no-mx.forums.microfocus.com
    > <http://no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>. failed: Domain name not found
    >
    > I'm using thunderbird as my newsreader app. I've also configured to read
    > gmail emails. My default smtp server is smtp.googlemail.com. The
    > openSUSE forum newsgroup is also configured to use it as smtp. Maybe
    > that's reason for failure.


    No, the reason is that you used "reply" instead of "follow up". On
    "news", aka "nntp", you can either reply only to the person that made
    the post, via email (which is why the account config asks for an smtp
    server), or to the nntp group, which is what you should use here.

    Another "feature" of nntp is that the email address you give doesn't
    need to be real, it is not verified. On this nntp site we use addresses
    (...@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com) that do not exist, but which are
    recognized by the "gateway" (the thing that moves posts from/to
    nntp/http sides) and does the correlation so that the forum member is
    identified on the web side. If you use another type of address, the
    gateway doesn't identify it, and you get the entry "nntp user" (you can
    see that on your posts you made with your real address).

    On occasion some of us have used real email addresses. They work fine,
    but they can be harvested by spammers, and they send you rubbish. And it
    makes it impossible for web users to click on send private message on
    the web forum.

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    Default Re: NNTP: Replied to a thread - got mailer daemon from Gmail

    On 2015-05-27 19:46, ab wrote:

    > Yes, and the follow-up keyboard shortcut is Ctrl+r, so that's nice.


    Wow! That's new to me :-)

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    akash vishwakarma NNTP User

    Default Re: NNTP: Replied to a thread - got mailer daemon from Gmail

    On 05/28/2015 12:18 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > No, the reason is that you used "reply" instead of "follow up". On
    > "news", aka "nntp", you can either reply only to the person that made
    > the post, via email (which is why the account config asks for an smtp
    > server), or to the nntp group, which is what you should use here.

    OK. Using follow up. This is a test to verify settings.


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    Default Re: NNTP: Replied to a thread - got mailer daemon from Gmail

    On 2015-05-28 10:29, akash vishwakarma wrote:
    > On 05/28/2015 12:18 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    >> No, the reason is that you used "reply" instead of "follow up". On
    >> "news", aka "nntp", you can either reply only to the person that made
    >> the post, via email (which is why the account config asks for an smtp
    >> server), or to the nntp group, which is what you should use here.

    > OK. Using follow up. This is a test to verify settings.


    Worked :-)

    You are using Thunderbird/31.6.0 :-)

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    Default Re: NNTP: Replied to a thread - got mailer daemon from Gmail

    On Thu 28 May 2015 08:29:20 AM CDT, akash vishwakarma wrote:

    On 05/28/2015 12:18 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > No, the reason is that you used "reply" instead of "follow up". On
    > "news", aka "nntp", you can either reply only to the person that made
    > the post, via email (which is why the account config asks for an smtp
    > server), or to the nntp group, which is what you should use here.

    OK. Using follow up. This is a test to verify settings.


    Hi
    Change the email to vish_99@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com so it will log
    your posts.....

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    Default Re: NNTP: Replied to a thread - got mailer daemon from Gmail

    On 05/28/2015 08:14 PM, malcolmlewis wrote:
    > Hi Change the email to vish_99@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com so it will
    > log your posts.....

    Have got my userid changed by Kim to vishy so have set
    vishy@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com as email address. Still vbulletin
    doesn't recognizes my nntp id.
    <http://paste.opensuse.org/images/97207942.png>

    Any other setting missing?
    Sorry I'm using metered connection these days so I've limited my
    internet use. Will be back in full swing in a week or two.

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    Default Re: NNTP: Replied to a thread - got mailer daemon from Gmail

    On 05/29/2015 10:52 PM, akash vishwakarma wrote:
    > have set vishy@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com as email address.
    > Still vbulletin doesn't recognizes my nntp id.

    Now it does recognize my nntp setup. Two things.
    Either I had made mistake in entering email id or I was following up in
    html mode.
    Q. Will following up in html cause problems.
    Q. If I'm sending in text only mode, how will I attach
    image/code/link/quote?


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