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    Default "Thunderbird trash is full" message (4GB file size problem)

    Today I have got the message "The folder Trash is full, and can't hold any more messages. To make room for more messages, delete any old or unwanted mail and compact the folder."

    I have located the problem: the Trash file for my gmail account (i use POP3 to donwload it) was 4GB large. I have deleted some large files an "for now" the problem is solved
    Code:
    fernando@andromeda:~/.thunderbird/g13by0sl.default/Mail/pop.gmail.com> ls -lh Trash
    -rw------- 1 fernando users 3,7G may 11 17:29 Trash
    But it will appear again soon.....

    I have read there was a problem with 4GB files in tb some years ago, the question is it possible to solve this problem.
    Using Opensuse 13.1 x86_64, MozillaThunderbird-31.5.0-70.47.2.x86_64 and /home is ext4

    regards

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    Default Re: "Thunderbird trash is full" message (4GB file size problem)

    I have TB 31.6.0 installed and received the same message a few days ago
    while starting TB. I had to manually delete all of the trash, even
    though I have all of the accounts set to "delete trash on exit". After
    compacting all of the folders it has not happened since. Seems like some
    sort of bug to me.

    Ken

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    Default Re: "Thunderbird trash is full" message (4GB file size problem)

    On 2015-05-11 17:46, fperal wrote:
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    > Today I have got the message "The folder Trash is full, and can't hold
    > any more messages. To make room for more messages, delete any old or
    > unwanted mail and compact the folder."


    May I suggest you use IMAP instead? :-)

    It has several advantages.

    One is, that if your internet connection is good, you can choose to not
    keep local copies of folders. Or you can keep your local copy (for
    offline use, they call it).



    > I have read there was a problem with 4GB files in tb some years ago, the
    > question is it possible to solve this problem.
    > Using Opensuse 13.1 x86_64, MozillaThunderbird-31.5.0-70.47.2.x86_64
    > and /home is ext4


    Strange... I have not seen that kind of problems in many years, and I
    was using Windows. But I do not have any folder that big.

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    Default Re: "Thunderbird trash is full" message (4GB file size problem)

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2015-05-11 17:46, fperal wrote:
    May I suggest you use IMAP instead? :-)

    It has several advantages.

    One is, that if your internet connection is good, you can choose to not
    keep local copies of folders. Or you can keep your local copy (for
    offline use, they call it).
    I'm a very strange guy and I prefer using POP and having a copy of any mail I have received since I've been using email and don't trust google will have them always here for me ;-)
    My thunderbird folder is allways growing (now is 17GB), but is not a problem since the hard disk grows too

    > I have read there was a problem with 4GB files in tb some years ago, the
    > question is it possible to solve this problem.
    > Using Opensuse 13.1 x86_64, MozillaThunderbird-31.5.0-70.47.2.x86_64
    > and /home is ext4


    Strange... I have not seen that kind of problems in many years, and I
    was using Windows. But I do not have any folder that big.
    the problem is not the folder (as a said is 17GB now), but a single 4GB file Trash on the pop.gmail.com folder.


    regards

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    Default Re: "Thunderbird trash is full" message (4GB file size problem)

    On 2015-05-12 11:36, fperal wrote:
    > I'm a very strange guy and I prefer using POP and having a copy of any
    > mail I have received since I've been using email and don't trust google
    > will have them always here for me ;-)


    So do I, but I don't trust Thunderbird to store it.

    I have my local storage outside of Th, in ~/Mail/*, accessible via
    dovecot imap server to any client, including Th. And dovecot does a very
    good job of it.

    > My thunderbird folder is allways growing (now is 17GB), but is not a
    > problem since the hard disk grows too


    It is a problem, because Th is not that reliable. As you found out with
    Trash... what would you have done if it were something else? You'd lost it.

    Not really... you can edit the "folder", it is a plain text file, and
    break it in two.


    > the problem is not the folder (as a said is 17GB now), but a single 4GB
    > file Trash on the pop.gmail.com folder.


    That's a folder in Mail parlance :-)

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    Default Re: "Thunderbird trash is full" message (4GB file size problem)

    Quote Originally Posted by fperal View Post
    Today I have got the message "The folder Trash is full, and can't hold any more messages. To make room for more messages, delete any old or unwanted mail and compact the folder."

    I have read there was a problem with 4GB files in tb some years ago, the question is it possible to solve this problem.
    Using Opensuse 13.1 x86_64, MozillaThunderbird-31.5.0-70.47.2.x86_64 and /home is ext4
    It should go away when these and other bugs are fixed.

    793865 – nsIMsgParseMailMsgState.envelopePos must be 64bits to support large mbox folders (eg. 4GB)

    789679 – Remove 4GB of folder size warning (mailboxTooLarge="The folder %S is full") after 4GB backend work is complete [4GB backend began in TB 12.0 by bug 462665]

    I don't know if the addition of maidir storage in Thunderbird 38.0 (if it makes it) will help.

    845952 – (maildirblockers) finish "maildir" message storage [meta]

    Thunderbird — Beta Notes (38.0beta) — Mozilla

    You can download, install and test with a separate profile. They do need testers.

    Thunderbird 38.0b5 isn't ready yet, so use b4build5.

    Index of /pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/candidates/38.0b4-candidates/build5/linux-x86_64


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    Default Re: "Thunderbird trash is full" message (4GB file size problem)

    On 2015-05-13 17:36, rafter22 wrote:
    > I don't know if the addition of maidir storage in Thunderbird 38.0 (if
    > it makes it) will help.


    Well... Using maildir, 4 GB of mail, at 10KB each, means 400000 files in
    a single directory. Triple that on some implementations. The only
    filesystem that copes gracefully with that many files (and many more) is
    reiserfs.

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    Default Re: "Thunderbird trash is full" message (4GB file size problem)

    Obviously you don't want to simply empty your trash folder, or else you wouldn't have this issue.

    As a workaround until the bug is fixed, seeing that disk space is not a problem, and supposing you keep trash as a sort of backup, you could just copy the file somewhere as a backup and then empty the trash. If you want to check the old trash for something, just copy it back - after temporarily renaming the newer one, of course.

    Or you could archive the older trash messages, but this is a bit more work.

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