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    Default Zypper-Apper???

    Hi!
    openSUSE 13.2, 64bit and KDE.

    I have a question, when I have booted lately, got network connection back I got a notice of upgrades.Even if I have just rebooted after a zypper dup. When I click on it the large Apper window shows up and I get confused (my laptop DE does not act like this). Lets see about Apper,
    -total DL size 396.4MB
    -among others packages want to install KDE update to 14.12.1 (KDE 4.14.5 installed)



    Zypper dup run at the same time:

    Code:
    The following 50 packages are going to be upgraded:
      backintime backintime-kde chromium chromium-desktop-kde chromium-ffmpeg 
      ffmpeg flash-player flash-player-kde4 gmplayer h264enc java-1_8_0-openjdk 
      java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless kcm-touchpad konversation libass5 libavcodec56 
      libavdevice56 libavfilter5 libavformat56 libavresample2 libavutil54 
      libmediawiki1 libmysqlclient18 libmysqlclient-devel libmysqlclient_r18 
      libmysqld18 libopencv2_4 libpostproc53 libstreamanalyzer0 libswresample1 
      libswscale3 libvlc5 libvlccore8 mariadb mariadb-client mariadb-errormessages 
      MPlayer mpv ntp opencv opencv-devel python3-setuptools smplayer-skins sudo 
      vlc vlc-codecs vlc-noX vlc-noX-lang vlc-qt youtube-dl 
    
    50 packages to upgrade.
    Overall download size: 137.0 MiB. Already cached: 0 B  After the operation, 
    additional 4.6 MiB will be used.
    Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y):
    Ok, why not click and let Apper run then?



    Does not Apper using the same base/info as Zypper? Well It can be my fault that I have a lock on DigiKam 4.4.0 in YaST2/software. Or do I have managed to made a mess again. No I don’t use Apper normally and I don't suffer from above. Just curious..

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    Last edited by jonte1; 18-Mar-2015 at 09:36. Reason: spelling, add wording.
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    Default Re: Zypper-Apper???

    You are comparing apples and oranges. appr is showing updates zypper dup is showing upgrade. zypper up is closer to what appr does. zypper dup should only be used to change distribution versions not to do upgrades (unless you are running tumbleweed and if you are you should under stand this stuff)


    You probably have package groups that are installed from two or more repos thus have a version numbering problem.

    Without seeing what repos you have it is hard to say. It is best to stick with a mimum number of repos and be sure when install complex apps that all parts come from the same repos (vendor)

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    Default Re: Zypper-Apper???

    [QUOTE=gogalthorp;2700290]You are comparing apples and oranges. appr is showing updates zypper dup is showing upgrade. zypper up is closer to what appr does. zypper dup should only be used to change distribution versions not to do upgrades (unless you are running tumbleweed and if you are you should under stand this stuff)/QUOTE]

    Interesting. Zypper Dup and Zypper up shows (almost) the same thing:

    Code:
    zypper dup
    Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command.
    Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata ......................[done]
    Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache ...........................[done]
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Computing distribution upgrade...
    
    The following 50 packages are going to be upgraded:
      backintime backintime-kde chromium chromium-desktop-kde chromium-ffmpeg 
      ffmpeg flash-player flash-player-kde4 gmplayer h264enc java-1_8_0-openjdk 
      java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless kcm-touchpad konversation libass5 libavcodec56 
      libavdevice56 libavfilter5 libavformat56 libavresample2 libavutil54 
      libmediawiki1 libmysqlclient18 libmysqlclient-devel libmysqlclient_r18 
      libmysqld18 libopencv2_4 libpostproc53 libstreamanalyzer0 libswresample1 
      libswscale3 libvlc5 libvlccore8 mariadb mariadb-client mariadb-errormessages 
      MPlayer mpv ntp opencv opencv-devel python3-setuptools smplayer-skins sudo 
      vlc vlc-codecs vlc-noX vlc-noX-lang vlc-qt youtube-dl 
    
    50 packages to upgrade.
    Overall download size: 137.0 MiB. Already cached: 0 B  After the operation, 
    additional 4.6 MiB will be used.
    Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y): n
    
    
    jodotpc:/home/jodot # zypper up
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    
    The following 6 package updates will NOT be installed:
      digikam kipi-plugins kipi-plugins-acquireimage kipi-plugins-geolocation 
      kipi-plugins-lang libkgeomap-lang 
    
    The following 50 packages are going to be upgraded:
      backintime backintime-kde chromium chromium-desktop-kde chromium-ffmpeg 
      ffmpeg flash-player flash-player-kde4 gmplayer h264enc java-1_8_0-openjdk 
      java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless kcm-touchpad konversation libass5 libavcodec56 
      libavdevice56 libavfilter5 libavformat56 libavresample2 libavutil54 
      libmediawiki1 libmysqlclient18 libmysqlclient-devel libmysqlclient_r18 
      libmysqld18 libopencv2_4 libpostproc53 libstreamanalyzer0 libswresample1 
      libswscale3 libvlc5 libvlccore8 mariadb mariadb-client mariadb-errormessages 
      MPlayer mpv ntp opencv opencv-devel python3-setuptools smplayer-skins sudo 
      vlc vlc-codecs vlc-noX vlc-noX-lang vlc-qt youtube-dl 
    
    50 packages to upgrade.
    Overall download size: 137.0 MiB. Already cached: 0 B  After the operation, 
    additional 4.6 MiB will be used.
    Zypper shows the amount of Dl data to 137MB.

    Lets see from the orginal post, -396,4MB in Apper including a older KDE version (of 259.4MB) when a newer versions is already installed gives... 137.0 MB witch is what Zypper xxx's says.


    Code:
    zypper lr
    #  | Alias                              | Name                                        | Enabled | Refresh
    ---+------------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+---------+--------
     1 | amd_13.2_drv_temp                  | amd 13.2 drv temp                           | Yes     | Yes    
     2 | download.opensuse.org-13.2-non-oss | Update Repository (Non-Oss)                 | Yes     | Yes    
     3 | download.opensuse.org-4.3          | openSUSE BuildService - LibreOffice         | Yes     | Yes    
     4 | download.opensuse.org-Extra        | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Extra           | No      | No     
     5 | download.opensuse.org-Extra_1      | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Extra           | Yes     | Yes    
     6 | download.opensuse.org-Stable       | openSUSE BuildService - LibreOffice         | No      | No     
     7 | download.opensuse.org-mozilla      | openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla             | Yes     | Yes    
     8 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss      | Main Repository (NON-OSS)                   | Yes     | Yes    
     9 | download.opensuse.org-oss          | Main Repository (OSS)                       | Yes     | Yes    
    10 | download.opensuse.org-update       | Main Update Repository                      | Yes     | Yes    
    11 | ftp.gwdg.de-suse                   | Packman Repository                          | Yes     | Yes    
    12 | google-earth                       | google-earth                                | Yes     | Yes    
    13 | home:derselbst                     | home:derselbst                              | Yes     | Yes    
    14 | home:enzokiel:pipelight            | home:enzokiel:pipelight                     | No      | No     
    15 | isv_ownCloud_desktop               | The ownCloud Desktop Client (openSUSE_13.2) | Yes     | No     
    16 | openSUSE-13.2-0                    | openSUSE-13.2-0                             | No      | No     
    17 | openSUSE:13.2:Update               | openSUSE:13.2:Update                        | Yes     | Yes    
    18 | repo-debug                         | openSUSE-13.2-Debug                         | No      | Yes    
    19 | repo-debug-update                  | openSUSE-13.2-Update-Debug                  | No      | Yes    
    20 | repo-debug-update-non-oss          | openSUSE-13.2-Update-Debug-Non-Oss          | No      | Yes    
    21 | repo-source                        | openSUSE-13.2-Source                        | No      | Yes    
    22 | windows:mingw:win32                | windows:mingw:win32                         | Yes     | Yes    
    23 | windows:mingw:win64                | windows:mingw:win64                         | Yes     | Yes
    regards
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    Default Re: Zypper-Apper???

    Quote Originally Posted by jonte1 View Post
    Interesting. Zypper Dup and Zypper up shows (almost) the same thing:
    As the conflict as acually caused by a "patch" from the update repo, so you should try "zypper patch" instead.

    The problem is probably that you installed digikam (or some subpackages) from KDE:Extra though.
    "zypper patch" should allow you to resolve that conflict, or if you use digikam from KDE:Extra you could just "taboo" the patch in YaST->Online Update (note: the _patch_ on the left side, not the package(s) on the right side)

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