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    Default Shouldn't we have a "Journal"entry in YaST?

    Shouldn't we have a "Journal" entry in YaST replacing or working in parallel with the existing "Syslog" entry?

    /var/log/README:
    "/var/log/lastlog The journal stores the same (and more)information as classic syslog. To make use of the journal and access
    the collected log data simply invoke "journalctl", which will output
    the logs in the identical text-based format the syslog files in
    /var/log used to be. For further details, please refer to
    journalctl(1).


    Alternatively, consider installing one of the traditional syslog
    implementations available for your distribution, which will generate
    the classic log files for you. Syslog implementations such as
    syslog-ng or rsyslog may be installed side-by-side with ".


    The existing "Syslog" entry/hyperlink returns file_not_found with a default installaton. However after installing rsyslog the hyperlink works. So probably something forgotten?

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    Default Re: Shouldn't we have a "Journal"entry in YaST?

    Quote Originally Posted by jazcykel View Post
    Shouldn't we have a "Journal" entry in YaST replacing or working in parallel with the existing "Syslog" entry?
    This is work in progress AFAIK.

    The existing "Syslog" entry/hyperlink returns file_not_found with a default installaton. However after installing rsyslog the hyperlink works. So probably something forgotten?
    No.
    The existing module displays the content of /var/log/messages (it even says so in the description). If you have no syslog daemon running, /var/log/messages does not exist, so the module has nothing to show of course.
    For 13.2 there is no syslog daemon (rsyslog e.g.) installed by default on purpose, as the systemd journal is enabled by default.
    Why would a normal user need all the logs _twice_ on his hard disk?

    In earlier versions (upto 13.1) rsyslog was installed by default and the journal disabled. But a new module that shows the journal has not been written yet...

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    Default Re: Shouldn't we have a "Journal"entry in YaST?

    Well .. in that case I think the YaST Syslog entry/hyperlink sould have been replaced with a Journal entry in 12.3 release. But not a big issue of course.

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    Default Re: Shouldn't we have a "Journal"entry in YaST?

    Quote Originally Posted by jazcykel View Post
    Well .. in that case I think the YaST Syslog entry/hyperlink sould have been replaced with a Journal entry in 12.3 release.
    You mean 13.2 I suppose?

    It should _not_ have been replaced IMHO, because it still makes sense to have a look at /var/log/messages if you install a syslog daemon. And if you upgrade from 13.1 or earlier, you will have it still installed and running anyway. Having only the systemd journal only applies to fresh installations of 13.2.

    Anyway, the point is that such a "journal" YaST module does not exist yet. So it cannot be part of 13.2 obviously.
    Probably there were more important things to do for the 13.2 release. YaST has been ported to Qt5 e.g.

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