Ok. So, I already finished my report for my homework. I save the report as docx as extension. But when I open the report on the ms office word, it turns out that the paragraph and allign in the report is messy. But when I opened the libre office writer, the paragraph looks fine. Any solution in this problem? I’m using libre office 4.3 and opensuse 13.2.
if it is finished then save it as a .pdf. It’ll look the same no matter where you view it then.
On 2014-11-26 11:26, mki wrote:
>
> Ok. So, I already finished my report for my homework. I save the report
> as docx as extension. But when I open the report on the ms office word,
> it turns out that the paragraph and allign in the report is messy. But
> when I opened the libre office writer, the paragraph looks fine. Any
> solution in this problem? I’m using libre office 4.3 and opensuse 13.2.
Open a bug with ms-office…
Or try save/load as odt. You may need another plugin in word.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
Generally speaking, compatibility of LibreOffice 4.3.3.2 (current in oS 13.2) is quite good, if you don’t use strange table or floating boxes etc…
Maybe you didn’t set any custom “paragraph style” in your document, so LO takes the “default” style.
MSO reads “no paragraph style”, sets it own “default” style that is very likely different from the LO one.
I would suggest opening the document in MS Office (since you appear to have one) and adjusting the “default paragraph” to your liking.
And possibly setting up your two office suites with identical “default” document styles of your liking.
Maybe even try saving it as the older .doc and open in Office…?
A few questions:
- Why are you creating it in LibreOffice but opening it in Word in the first place? If you have/need Word, just use that no?
- What version of MS Office are you using - 2003, 2007, 2010, 2013/365?
Note you have to tell to save to the format not just slap an extension on.
Yes.
And to easily set your defaults go to Tools > Options > Load/Save > General. Then for each document type you want (text document, spreadsheet, presentation, etc) change the Always Save as option to whatever you’d like. Mine are set to the Microsoft 2007/2010/2013 XML ones for example. This makes it much easier for me as I don’t have to choose the document type each time.
On 2014-11-26 17:56, EmpireITtech wrote:
> - Why are you creating it in LibreOffice but opening it in Word in the
> first place? If you have/need Word, just use that no?
The typical answer is that you are preparing a document for somebody
else. For instance, I don’t have word, but some people want/require I
send my documents in word.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
as good as the LibrOffice filters are the doc format is better supported then docx, I’ve read it somewhere else that if you need to send a file to an MS Office user from Libre your best choice is the old binary doc, and embed the font as most windows boxes don’t come with free fonts the lack of the real font might distort the document.
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 02:36:01 +0000, I A wrote:
> as good as the LibrOffice filters are the doc format is better supported
> then docx, I’ve read it somewhere else that if you need to send a file
> to an MS Office user from Libre your best choice is the old binary doc,
> and embed the font as most windows boxes don’t come with free fonts the
> lack of the real font might distort the document.
RTF is also generally a good option for compatibility with Word.
Jim
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On 2014-11-27 03:55, Jim Henderson wrote:
> RTF is also generally a good option for compatibility with Word.
Yes, but it often converts to very large files, inconvenient for email.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2014-11-26 19:26, EmpireITtech wrote:
>
> Yes.
> And to easily set your defaults go to Tools > Options > Load/Save >
> General. Then for each document type you want (text document,
> spreadsheet, presentation, etc) change the -Always Save as- option to
> whatever you’d like. Mine are set to the Microsoft 2007/2010/2013 XML
> ones for example. This makes it much easier for me as I don’t have to
> choose the document type each time.
It would be preferable a single button that saves in two or more formats
every time you save; thus the master document would be in the native LO
format, but you would have ready the versions for sharing.
A macro might be able to do this, dunno.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
Well fellows, apparently the current LO Writer is wiser than we thought it was. I did some tests but was unable to reproduce what the OP reported.
Text with ordinary formatting written with LO 4.3.3.2 “as installed” shows correctly both in MS Word 2007 and 2010, both with .docx and .doc formats.
Even “slapping the .docx suffix” when saving produces the expected outcome, without further choices in the file menu and irrespective of the default settings for saving text files. It seems that we all are barking at the wrong tree…
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:03:08 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2014-11-27 03:55, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> RTF is also generally a good option for compatibility with Word.
>
> Yes, but it often converts to very large files, inconvenient for email.
That’s why zipping files is a good thing. Not that difficult to work
around, and because it’s a well-known standard, it renders pretty
consistently.
Jim
Jim Henderson
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Or even what FTP or a file sharing service like Dropbox offers 
On 2014-12-01 17:06, EmpireITtech wrote:
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> hendersj;2679286 Wrote:
>> That’s why zipping files is a good thing. Not that difficult to work
>> around, and because it’s a well-known standard, it renders pretty
>> consistently.
> Or even what FTP or a file sharing service like Dropbox offers 
I have correspondents that still do not know how to open zips, even less
create them. FTPwhat?
Linux users have typically more technical knowledge than typical Windows
users. I don’t have solid stats, but it is my experience. Which is, of
course, why there are more Windows systems out there - or the other way
round (many non technical users because there are many windoses)
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 16:18:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2014-12-01 17:06, EmpireITtech wrote:
>>
>> hendersj;2679286 Wrote:
>
>
>>> That’s why zipping files is a good thing. Not that difficult to work
>>> around, and because it’s a well-known standard, it renders pretty
>>> consistently.
>
>> Or even what FTP or a file sharing service like Dropbox offers
>
> I have correspondents that still do not know how to open zips, even less
> create them. FTPwhat?
>
> Linux users have typically more technical knowledge than typical Windows
> users. I don’t have solid stats, but it is my experience. Which is, of
> course, why there are more Windows systems out there - or the other way
> round (many non technical users because there are many windoses)
Now you’re just arguing in order to argue, Carlos. You don’t want to use
RTF or teach your ‘correspondents’ how to unzip a file? Fine, use doc or
docx then.
Jim
Jim Henderson
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Plus the Dropbox links (or any other file sharing method) are pretty awesome and don’t require much teaching. I believe even Mozilla Thunderbird has a method to do this not requiring Dropbox or anything >> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/filelink-large-attachments
Either way, we live in a great time for tech and I am always impressed what people come up with to help/improve the status quo 
On 2014-12-01 19:13, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 16:18:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Now you’re just arguing in order to argue, Carlos. You don’t want to use
> RTF or teach your ‘correspondents’ how to unzip a file? Fine, use doc or
> docx then.
No, I’m not arguing. We are, I hope, commenting on possibilities, pros
and cons.
Of course I have tried to teach my correspondents how to use other
techniques. Some are plain unable to learn, at least over email. Some
have big difficulties to even write or read text, and really understand
it (perhaps they prefer a video). Some directly refuse to do anything
differently, and point out that I’m the one making difficulties, by
using such stupid thing as Linux instead of Windows, which is easy and
everybody uses (and please see the humour of the situation; I’m trying
irony).
So instead it is me who makes the effort to adapt to whatever they use
and prefer.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2014-12-01 19:36, EmpireITtech wrote:
>
> Plus the Dropbox links (or any other file sharing method) are pretty
> awesome and don’t require much teaching. I believe even Mozilla
> Thunderbird has a method to do this not requiring Dropbox or anything >>
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/filelink-large-attachments
I saw that, but did not investigate it much.
I have shared files using google plus. You send the other person a link.
You can restrict permissions so that the other person needs to login,
thus the file is not public. And, something I have not tried, some
documents types you can open remotely on the web browser, so it is a
possibility. I dislike it, for privacy, but it is a possibility. maybe
this is what people talk about the cloud. LOL.
> Either way, we live in a great time for tech and I am always impressed
> what people come up with to help/improve the status quo
The other day, on the mail list, we edited collaboratively a small text
file. Everybody could write on it, without special software at all, just
Firefox. And even with my limited internet connection, it was fast. I
was impressed.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)