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    Default Re: BtrFS vs XFS vs Ext4

    Quote Originally Posted by nightwishfan View Post
    Unlike the previous poster I never had any problems with it. It's development has sped up lately and it has a lot of support in the enterprise.
    Pull the cord when XFS is writing.
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    Default Re: BtrFS vs XFS vs Ext4

    On 11/04/2014 04:56 PM, Miuku wrote:
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    > nightwishfan;2672900 Wrote:
    >> Unlike the previous poster I never had any problems with it. It's
    >> development has sped up lately and it has a lot of support in the
    >> enterprise.

    > Pull the cord when XFS is writing.
    >
    >


    Pull the cord when <insert supposedly full proof fs here> is writing.
    (I dare you!)

    XFS is Red Hat's enterprise filesystem (until they finally trust btrfs).

    Because ext4 is deficient as an enterprise level fs, Red Hat has spent quite a
    bit of time making sure XFS is "up to snuff". So... I think you can trust XFS
    at least as much as ext4 (which isn't all that trusted by SUSE).

    In the USA Red Hat dominates SUSE, so I end up having to use a lot of XFS.
    Obviously, SUSE has supported XFS for much longer than Red Hat... which is
    pretty much the norm... Red Hat has only recently begun to see outside the extfs
    genre.




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    On 2014-11-04 17:56, EmpireITtech wrote:
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    > Miuku;2672806 Wrote:
    >> There is no force on this earth that will make me use XFS for anything.
    >>
    >> In the past I've had catastrophic mission critical data loss due to XFS
    >> failure (even though backups existed, of course) and nothing will
    >> convince me that it is anything but a massive headache.


    I have had data los with all types of filesystem. Hum, not with btrfs
    and ntfs... wait, I don't use btrfs, so that's why :-p

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    Default Re: BtrFS vs XFS vs Ext4

    On 2014-11-04 23:36, nightwishfan wrote:
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    > When Ext4 was released I instead moved to Xfs. Unlike the previous
    > poster I never had any problems with it. It's development has sped up
    > lately and it has a lot of support in the enterprise.


    I have been using xfs for several years, and I'm very happy with it. I
    would prefer reiserfs, but it doesn't scale that well, and its
    maintenance is lagging behind, unfortunately.

    > Quite recently I moved to btrfs for all my backups. I did so because it
    > has features like checksumming and compression. I do have a lot of
    > issues with snapper snapshots taking up space without real use, so I
    > just disable snapper. I do think it is a good tool though. I would argue
    > btrfs is the future and it would be best to learn it now.


    I like the idea of a filesystem with compression, but I understand it is
    one of the still "beta" features of btrfs. At least on 13.1.

    On the other hand, backup of xfs to xfs allows you certain features that
    yield a very *fast* imaging backup. No compression, but compaction.

    As for why btrfs on root, well, it offers rollback on updates and
    installs, natively. For instance. Devs want that, on YaST.

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    Default Re: BtrFS vs XFS vs Ext4

    On 2014-11-04 23:56, Miuku wrote:
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    > nightwishfan;2672900 Wrote:
    >> Unlike the previous poster I never had any problems with it. It's
    >> development has sped up lately and it has a lot of support in the
    >> enterprise.

    > Pull the cord when XFS is writing.


    Pull the cord while reiserfs or btrfs or ext4 is writing.

    Of course, a filesystem with heavy optimization in memory can be damaged
    if stopped like that. So use an UPS. Reiserfs, on the other hand, was
    designed for that scenario (pull the cord), but sometimes it got
    corrupted royally, absolutely beyond repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmpireITtech View Post
    Okay, thanks!
    Where do I get the open source drivers for ATI? Or is that already used on openSUSE by default?
    Yes, they are installed and used by default. (unless you boot with "nomodeset" or to "Recovery Mode")

    To check, have a look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log, or run this e.g.:
    Code:
    glxinfo | grep render
    YaST->Hardware Information should show as well which driver is in use, as does KDE's KInfocenter.

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    Default Re: BtrFS vs XFS vs Ext4

    Quote Originally Posted by cjcox View Post
    Pull the cord when <insert supposedly full proof fs here> is writing.
    (I dare you!)
    The difference being Ext4 survives this, repairs what can be repaired and gets on with its life (most of the time). XFS on the other hand more often than not ends up with a non-boot able system.

    There's tons of "XFS ****ing sucks" threads on Google regarding corruption, data loss and highly damaged systems due to system crashes and/or power failures when using XFS - I'm not making this stuff up so go and Google for some examples.
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    Default Re: BtrFS vs XFS vs Ext4

    On 2014-11-05 11:06, Miuku wrote:

    > There's tons of "XFS ****ing sucks" threads on Google regarding
    > corruption, data loss and highly damaged systems due to system crashes
    > and/or power failures when using XFS - I'm not making this stuff up so
    > go and Google for some examples.


    Just report each issue on the xfs mail list. They do care. They solved
    the problem I had, where the opensuse devs refused, because I use nvidia
    proprietary drivers, and now there is a patch on the kernel.

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    I heard that EXT support compression too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    The nvidia repo is already available for 13.2. Just add it in YaST->Software Repositories->Add->Community Repositories.
    Hey wolfi - once I add the repo, how do I apply the new nVidia drivers to my system?
    Here's my current repos which should all be default plus the nVidia and Mozilla ones added:

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