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    Default Firefox in mozilla:alpha outdated?

    Why is the firefox in mozilla:alpha a lower version than the one in the
    default repos? And by version I mean the actual version for Aurora not
    the one listed on obs.

    In other words the version in mozilla:alpha seems to be Firefox 32 (as
    Aurora) while the default repos have normal firefox at 32.0.2.

    I'm just confused as to what the point of the :alpha repo is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanbortu View Post
    Why is the firefox in mozilla:alpha a lower version than the one in the
    default repos? And by version I mean the actual version for Aurora not
    the one listed on obs.

    In other words the version in mozilla:alpha seems to be Firefox 32 (as
    Aurora) while the default repos have normal firefox at 32.0.2.

    I'm just confused as to what the point of the :alpha repo is...
    Well the normal Firefox should be 33.0 now that it has been released by Mozilla, or at least 32.0.3 with the security fix for the NSS signature forgery attack. But it probably wasn't needed because NSS is a separate file. My guess anyway, since my Firefox shows I am using NSS 3.17.1.

    MFSA 2014-73: RSA Signature Forgery in NSS

    I did not know there was a mozilla:alpha repo. I just download the tar.gz files from Mozilla and install the Beta and Nightly versions.

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    Default Re: Firefox in mozilla:alpha outdated?

    On 10/16/2014 10:46 AM, rafter22 wrote:
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    > alanbortu;2669682 Wrote:
    >> Why is the firefox in mozilla:alpha a lower version than the one in the
    >> default repos? And by version I mean the actual version for Aurora not
    >> the one listed on obs.
    >>
    >> In other words the version in mozilla:alpha seems to be Firefox 32 (as
    >> Aurora) while the default repos have normal firefox at 32.0.2.
    >>
    >> I'm just confused as to what the point of the :alpha repo is...

    >
    > Well the normal Firefox should be 33.0 now that it has been released by
    > Mozilla, or at least 32.0.3 with the security fix for the NSS signature
    > forgery attack. But it probably wasn't needed because NSS is a separate
    > file. My guess anyway, since my Firefox shows I am using NSS 3.17.1.
    >
    > 'MFSA 2014-73: RSA Signature Forgery in NSS'
    > (https://www.mozilla.org/security/ann...sa2014-73.html)
    >
    > I did not know there was a mozilla:alpha repo. I just download the
    > tar.gz files from Mozilla and install the Beta and Nightly versions.
    >


    But then you dont get the nice KDE patches..


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    Default Re: Firefox in mozilla:alpha outdated?

    Quote Originally Posted by alanbortu View Post
    On 10/16/2014 10:46 AM, rafter22 wrote:


    >
    > I did not know there was a mozilla:alpha repo. I just download the
    > tar.gz files from Mozilla and install the Beta and Nightly versions.
    >


    But then you dont get the nice KDE patches..
    What nice KDE patches?

    Anyway, I enabled the Mozilla OBS repo on Thursday and updated my insecure Firefox 32.0.2 to 33.0, Thunderbird to 31.2.0 and SeaMonkey 2.30 was there.

    I left it enabled and yesterday the automatic updater updated them again. Checked YaST and it was the same versions.
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    Default Re: Firefox in mozilla:alpha outdated?

    On 10/18/2014 11:36 AM, rafter22 wrote:
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    > alanbortu;2670048 Wrote:
    >> On 10/16/2014 10:46 AM, rafter22 wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>
    >>> I did not know there was a mozilla:alpha repo. I just download the
    >>> tar.gz files from Mozilla and install the Beta and Nightly versions.
    >>>

    >>
    >> But then you dont get the nice KDE patches..

    >
    > What nice KDE patches?
    >


    It gives you some KDE integration, the one that I mainly like is the
    file picker is similar to dolphin which means I can have actual
    thumbnails for images (unlike the terrible default one that I still have
    to put up with in GIMP).

    see http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/66734108

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    Default Re: Firefox in mozilla:alpha outdated?

    On 10/18/2014 05:13 PM, alanbortu wrote:
    > On 10/18/2014 11:36 AM, rafter22 wrote:
    >>
    >> alanbortu;2670048 Wrote:
    >>> On 10/16/2014 10:46 AM, rafter22 wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I did not know there was a mozilla:alpha repo. I just download the
    >>>> tar.gz files from Mozilla and install the Beta and Nightly versions.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> But then you dont get the nice KDE patches..

    >>
    >> What nice KDE patches?
    >>

    >
    > It gives you some KDE integration, the one that I mainly like is the
    > file picker is similar to dolphin which means I can have actual
    > thumbnails for images (unlike the terrible default one that I still have
    > to put up with in GIMP).
    >
    > see http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/66734108
    >


    Firefox, about:config:

    ui.allow_platform_file_picker;true

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    Default Re: Firefox in mozilla:alpha outdated?

    On 10/18/2014 07:18 PM, Chris Cox wrote:
    > On 10/18/2014 05:13 PM, alanbortu wrote:
    >> It gives you some KDE integration, the one that I mainly like is the
    >> file picker is similar to dolphin which means I can have actual
    >> thumbnails for images (unlike the terrible default one that I still have
    >> to put up with in GIMP).
    >>
    >> see http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/66734108
    >>

    >
    > Firefox, about:config:
    >
    > ui.allow_platform_file_picker;true
    >


    The default value is to set it to true, but then you get this file
    picker (http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/14632407), which is not very
    useful for me as I upload lots of images in my day to day use. Why it
    does not have thumbnails for all images, I do not understand but I
    really do prefer the dolphin styled file picker over it.

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    Am 16.10.2014 um 00:08 schrieb alanbortu:
    > Why is the firefox in mozilla:alpha a lower version than the one in the
    > default repos? And by version I mean the actual version for Aurora not
    > the one listed on obs.
    >
    > In other words the version in mozilla:alpha seems to be Firefox 32 (as
    > Aurora) while the default repos have normal firefox at 32.0.2.
    >
    > I'm just confused as to what the point of the :alpha repo is...


    There is
    mozilla - stable version
    mozilla:beta - beta versions (usually only Firefox)
    mozilla:alpha - aurora version (usually only Firefox)

    But there is a big but.
    Availability of beta and alpha versions depends on the time I have to
    rebase all patches, create new ones if needed etc.
    So at this very moment even beta does not have Firefox 34 yet because
    there is much to do to make it compile with the current patchset.
    Not speaking about Aurora for the moment.


    Wolfgang


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    Default Re: Firefox in mozilla:alpha outdated?

    On 10/28/2014 04:32 PM, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
    > Am 16.10.2014 um 00:08 schrieb alanbortu:
    >> Why is the firefox in mozilla:alpha a lower version than the one in the
    >> default repos? And by version I mean the actual version for Aurora not
    >> the one listed on obs.
    >>
    >> In other words the version in mozilla:alpha seems to be Firefox 32 (as
    >> Aurora) while the default repos have normal firefox at 32.0.2.
    >>
    >> I'm just confused as to what the point of the :alpha repo is...

    >
    > There is
    > mozilla - stable version
    > mozilla:beta - beta versions (usually only Firefox)
    > mozilla:alpha - aurora version (usually only Firefox)
    >
    > But there is a big but.
    > Availability of beta and alpha versions depends on the time I have to
    > rebase all patches, create new ones if needed etc.
    > So at this very moment even beta does not have Firefox 34 yet because
    > there is much to do to make it compile with the current patchset.
    > Not speaking about Aurora for the moment.
    >
    >
    > Wolfgang
    >


    Alright, thanks for the explanation Wolfgang.
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