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    Default KMyMoney Update in YAST ?

    Opensuse 12.3
    KDE 4.10.5R1

    I have KMyMoney, ver 4.6.42.26 installed as that is the latest in the opensuse software library
    The latest release according to the KDE forums is 4.6.6 and supposedly solves some issues with Quicken 11 downloads.

    I seem to have the problem that 4.6.6 solves, as a site that I frequent daily, WWW.VANGUARD.COM has stopped working yesterday when I try to download transactions in a Quicken format.

    It seems that YAST has not been updated with ver 4.6.6 and I was wondering how do I go about campaigning for that to happen ?
    Failing that, there is a download of the latest version in a format of nnnn.TAR.XZ but I would prefer to stick with doing the update via YAST.

    Plus I am not sure I would be able to figure out what to do with the .TAR.XZ

    For now, I am going to take a look at what is inside the .TAR.XZ.

    Help and thanks
    openSUSE 13.2

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    Default Re: KMyMoney Update in YAST ?

    A released openSUSE version will not add new versions of the software in it's standard repoos. It will only retrofit security and important corrections to the standard versions and make them available through the Update repos (they will still have the original version id with a build number added).

    You can of course use other repos (in this case some KDE stable/factory or what ypu like), but then it would be best to switch your whole KDE to it and not just one package.

    Strange that you have something called nnnn.TAR.XZ. Tarballs names end normaly in .tar.gz, When it is .TAR.XZ that looks very Windows to me (but take care, I do not know very much about Windows).
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    Quote Originally Posted by hextejas View Post
    It seems that YAST has not been updated with ver 4.6.6 and I was wondering how do I go about campaigning for that to happen ?
    Failing that, there is a download of the latest version in a format of nnnn.TAR.XZ but I would prefer to stick with doing the update via YAST.

    Plus I am not sure I would be able to figure out what to do with the .TAR.XZ

    For now, I am going to take a look at what is inside the .TAR.XZ.
    This contains the source code which you would have to compile yourself.
    And most likely you miss a lot of development packages, so I wouldn't recommend it.

    Better add the KDE:Extra repo, and install the latest version from there.
    YaST->Software Repositories->Add->Community Repositories.

    Then search for "kmymoney" in YaST->Software Management and use the "Versions" tab to install the latest version.

    Or use this 1-click install:
    http://software.opensuse.org/package/kmymoney
    (you have to click on "Show other versions" and "Show possibly unstable versions" to see the latest one)

    But didn't you ask something similar about a year ago, already?

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    Strange that you have something called nnnn.TAR.XZ. Tarballs names end normaly in .tar.gz, When it is .TAR.XZ that looks very Windows to me (but take care, I do not know very much about Windows).
    .tar.xz tarballs are quite common for source code on Linux nowadays, especially for large projects like KDE. xz offers a far better compression than gzip or even bzip2.
    From "rpm -qi xz":
    The xz command is a very powerful program for compressing files.

    * Average compression ratio of LZMA is about 30% better than that of
    gzip, and 15% better than that of bzip2.

    * Decompression speed is only little slower than that of gzip, being
    two to five times faster than bzip2.

    * In fast mode, compresses faster than bzip2 with a comparable
    compression ratio.

    * Achieving the best compression ratios takes four to even twelve
    times longer than with bzip2. However. this doesn't affect
    decompressing speed.

    * Very similar command line interface to what gzip and bzip2 have.
    Last edited by wolfi323; 11-Sep-2014 at 07:58.

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    Default Re: KMyMoney Update in YAST ?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    .tar.xz tarballs are quite common for source code on Linux nowadays, especially for large projects like KDE. xz offers a far better compression than gzip or even bzip2.
    From "rpm -qi xz":
    I accept .tar.xz (or whatever compression used), but I mistrust .TAR.XZ.
    Henk van Velden

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    I accept .tar.xz (or whatever compression used), but I mistrust .TAR.XZ.
    And what about "YAST" then?

    But in the end you can name a file like you want. xxx.TAR.XZ is nothing else than xxx.tar.xz, it's the content that matters.
    So what's your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    And what about "YAST" then?

    But in the end you can name a file like you want. xxx.TAR.XZ is nothing else than xxx.tar.xz, it's the content that matters.
    So what's your point?
    My point is that when the OP reports the truth (and I assume he does) it is NOT clear to me that he has there a file where I would assume it might be a compressed tar file for Unix/Linux environment.

    I know you can have a compressed tar file and that you can name it lousy-file.jpeg. No need to remind me of that.

    And where and when did I type "YAST"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    My point is that when the OP reports the truth (and I assume he does) it is NOT clear to me that he has there a file where I would assume it might be a compressed tar file for Unix/Linux environment.
    What else should it be? Probably he only used CAPS for stressing the file type.

    Anyway, for me this discussion is useless.
    I don't think he is up to compile it from source anyway.

    I know you can have a compressed tar file and that you can name it lousy-file.jpeg. No need to remind me of that.
    Haha!
    There is a small difference whether you call an xz compressed tarball xxx.TAR.XZ or xxx.jpeg, no?
    The latter is just completely misleading and wrong.

    And where and when did I type "YAST"?
    You didn't, but the OP did.
    Last edited by wolfi323; 11-Sep-2014 at 08:48.

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    Default Re: KMyMoney Update in YAST ?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Anyway, for me this discussion is useless.
    Then stay to that.
    Henk van Velden

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    My point is that when the OP reports the truth (and I assume he does) it is NOT clear to me that he has there a file where I would assume it might be a compressed tar file for Unix/Linux environment.

    I know you can have a compressed tar file and that you can name it lousy-file.jpeg. No need to remind me of that.

    And where and when did I type "YAST"?
    Guys I apologize for the confusion. I tried to emphasize and call attention to the odd(to me) extensions by capitalizing them.
    In the future I will pay particular attention to making sure that I type exactly what I see.
    This is linux and case is important !!! My bad.
    And I doubled checked to make sure that I had gotten the extension(s) correct.
    The file name is kmymoney-4.6.6.tar.xz
    I am going to proceed as Wolfie recommends and see what happens.

    I took a look at what is inside the aforementioned file, read the Readme file and it talked about doing a cmake. Had I taken that approach I would be back here with a ton more questions and I still may if Wolfie's solution doesn't pan out.
    And Wolfie, I apologize for capitalizing your name, I just cannot get used to proper names starting with lower case.

    And just to pick a nit, I probably took liberties in typing my version of opensuse since I am pretty sure that the "correct" name has a mix of upper and lower case. I am assuming (bad sometimes) that some words will be immediately recognizable no matter the case,,,,,like YAST or yast or YaSt,etc.
    openSUSE 13.2

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    Default Re: KMyMoney Update in YAST ?

    Apologies taken.

    Yes it is alwyas the best to copy/paste from your terminal screen into a post. In that case you do not loose information that might seem irrilevant to you, but that still might be the clou to your problem.

    And the name of the product is YaST, and it is started from the CLI with either
    Code:
    yast
    for the ncurses version, or
    Code:
    yast2
    for the GUI version. So there are valid variations, but each has his own goal.
    Henk van Velden

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