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    Default Desktop background image lost after 9/5/14 update

    Schentlemens:

    Following the most recent "zypper -up" I have lost my desktop background image and now have the default "lizard-on-the-twig".

    From the KDE Help Center:
    Right clicking on the desktop also offers you to configure aspects such as the wallpaper and the layout used, and the mouse actions. It offers to download new wallpapers through KNewStuff.

    Desktop Settings - Plasma Desktop Shell
    I Can't find "Desktop Settings - Plasma Desktop Shell" anymore. Right-clicking the desktop has no such option since the updates - and I couldn't say how many possible updates ago - (wasn't looking).

    The "KDE Help Center" is not much help, is way behind the versions.

    I'm not looking for another "theme" - I have a wallpaper .jpg picture file on the hard drive and I need the missing dialog to retrieve it and put it on the desktop.

    How to recover the
    Desktop Settings - Plasma Desktop Shell
    which was formerly accessed by right-clicking the desktop?
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    Default Re: Desktop background image lost after 9/5/14 update

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillium View Post
    Schentlemens:

    Following the most recent "zypper -up" I have lost my desktop background image and now have the default "lizard-on-the-twig".
    Which openSUSE version? What updates? What KDE version? From which repo?
    There was no official KDE update recently by openSUSE.

    Edit: Sorry, I overlooked your signature. So you are still using KDE 4.11 from the standard openSUSE 13.1 repos?

    I Can't find "Desktop Settings - Plasma Desktop Shell" anymore. Right-clicking the desktop has no such option since the updates - and I couldn't say how many possible updates ago - (wasn't looking).
    Well, that's why that "cashew" (that some people hate so much) exists and cannot be disabled.
    Left-Click on that to reach the settings. It's normally located in the top right corner of the screen, it shows your activity name (like "Desktop") if it's not exactly in the corner.
    Have a look at the "Mouse Actions" settings to maybe restore the right-click menu.

    And then maybe post a screenshot so one could probably make a guess what happened.
    Did you change to another activity type maybe?
    Last edited by wolfi323; 06-Sep-2014 at 03:27.

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    Default Re: Desktop background image lost after 9/5/14 update

    Two more things:
    - does it work as expected when you create a fresh user and login as that?
    - do you have kactivities4 installed? Without that activity management will not work, and if you uninstalled it (for whatever reason) the previous activities might not be available any more which could explain that sudden change of your desktop.

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    Default Re: Desktop background image lost after 9/5/14 update [CANCEL - PROBLEM FOUND!]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillium View Post
    Schentlemens:
    Following the most recent "zypper -up" I have lost my desktop background image and now have the default "lizard-on-the-twig".

    From the KDE Help Center:
    I Can't find "Desktop Settings - Plasma Desktop Shell" anymore. Right-clicking the desktop has no such option since the updates - and I couldn't say how many possible updates ago - (wasn't looking).

    The "KDE Help Center" is not much help, is way behind the versions.

    I'm not looking for another "theme" - I have a wallpaper .jpg picture file on the hard drive and I need the missing dialog to retrieve it and put it on the desktop.

    How to recover the which was formerly accessed by right-clicking the desktop?
    Problem found: As usual, between the chair and the keyboard.

    I was looking for "Desktop Settings" in the right-click dialog. Silly me.

    It's there, but it's titled "Folder Settings" instead. Not sure how that groks.

    Thanks, Wolfi, for jumping in.
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    Default Re: Desktop background image lost after 9/5/14 update [CANCEL - PROBLEM FOUND!]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillium View Post
    It's there, but it's titled "Folder Settings" instead. Not sure how that groks.
    Well, it is just named after the desktop layout in use.

    If you use the standard "Default Desktop" layout, i.e. an empty desktop where you can add widgets, it is labelled "Default Desktop Settings".
    If you use a "Folder" layout, i.e. the desktop directly shows a folder, it is called "Folder Settings" appropriately.
    And for a "Search and Launch" layout, it would be labelled "Search and Launch Settings"...

    The standard "Desktop" activity uses the former, the "Desktop Icons" activity the latter, but you can configure the layout to be used in the "XXX Settings" dialog yourself for the current activity.

    But I misunderstood you a bit there. I thought you didn't get any right-click menu at all...
    Last edited by wolfi323; 06-Sep-2014 at 04:51.

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    Default Re: Desktop background image lost after 9/5/14 update

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Well, it is just named after the desktop layout in use.

    If you use the standard "Default Desktop" layout, i.e. an empty desktop where you can add widgets, it is labelled "Default Desktop Settings".
    If you use a "Folder" layout, i.e. the desktop directly shows a folder, it is called "Folder Settings" appropriately.
    And for a "Search and Launch" layout, it would be labelled "Search and Launch Settings"... ;)

    The standard "Desktop" activity uses the former, the "Desktop Icons" activity the latter, but you can configure the layout to be used in the "XXX Settings" dialog yourself for the current activity.

    But I misunderstood you a bit there. I thought you didn't get any right-click menu at all...:P
    Hi Wolfi:

    Hum. Still doesn't grok. I don't see that my desktop shows a folder, only an "imported" .jpg file that is the picture in/on my "desktop"/screen. Technically I guess showing a file can be said to be "pointed at" a folder, but practically it is only showing the content of a file. The change in terminology caused me to completely ignore that function. Again, silly me - I didn't "click everything just in case".

    you can configure the layout to be used in the "XXX Settings" dialog yourself for the current activity.
    How can I do this, and would it "stick" between updates? I'd like very much to tell this thing that MY "Default Desktop Settings" include whatever .jpg I choose to use.
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    Default Re: Desktop background image lost after 9/5/14 update

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillium View Post
    Hum. Still doesn't grok. I don't see that my desktop shows a folder, only an "imported" .jpg file that is the picture in/on my "desktop"/screen. Technically I guess showing a file can be said to be "pointed at" a folder, but practically it is only showing the content of a file.
    No. That "imported" .jpg file is a background image, or "wallpaper".

    Both the "Default Desktop" and the "Folder" layout show a background image, there's no difference.
    But the "Default Desktop" only shows widgets/plasmoids on top of the background image.
    The "Folder" layout shows the content of some folder (most commonly ~/Desktop). It is the equivalent to KDE3's or Windows' desktop e.g.

    How can I do this, and would it "stick" between updates? I'd like very much to tell this thing that MY "Default Desktop Settings" include whatever .jpg I choose to use.
    Set the layout to "Default Desktop".
    But that's unrelated to the wallpaper. You can select the wallpaper in the same dialog though.

    And yes, it should stick between updates.

    But then, you can have more different "activities" with different wallpapers and different desktop layouts.
    Maybe you just switched to the "Desktop Icons" activity? That would use a "Folder" layout and the default wallpaper.
    Click on the "activities" icon in the panel (the 3 dots), or select "Activities" in the desktop's right-click menu. Then choose the "Desktop" activity.
    The settings should be called "Default Desktop Settings" then again, and probably your former wallpaper is shown as well.

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    Default Re: Desktop background image lost after 9/5/14 update [SOLVED]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    No. That "imported" .jpg file is a background image, or "wallpaper".

    Both the "Default Desktop" and the "Folder" layout show a background image, there's no difference.
    But the "Default Desktop" only shows widgets/plasmoids on top of the background image.
    The "Folder" layout shows the content of some folder (most commonly ~/Desktop). It is the equivalent to KDE3's or Windows' desktop e.g.

    Set the layout to "Default Desktop".
    But that's unrelated to the wallpaper. You can select the wallpaper in the same dialog though.

    And yes, it should stick between updates.

    But then, you can have more different "activities" with different wallpapers and different desktop layouts.
    Maybe you just switched to the "Desktop Icons" activity? That would use a "Folder" layout and the default wallpaper.
    Click on the "activities" icon in the panel (the 3 dots), or select "Activities" in the desktop's right-click menu. Then choose the "Desktop" activity.
    The settings should be called "Default Desktop Settings" then again, and probably your former wallpaper is shown as well.
    I think I've finally got this -
    Set the layout to "Default Desktop".
    But that's unrelated to the wallpaper. You can select the wallpaper in the same dialog though.
    Meaning I finally found where to "Set the layout":
    Code:
    Right-click the desktop, then click the bottom item in the dialog, no matter what it is, to get the "Desktop Settings - Plasma Desktop Shell" dialog, 
    then choose "Default Desktop" from the "Layout" drop-down menu.
    All working fine now - and now I know how to do one more thing!

    Thank you, Wolfi
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    Default Re: Desktop background image lost after 9/5/14 update [SOLVED]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillium View Post
    Meaning I finally found where to "Set the layout":
    Code:
    Right-click the desktop, then click the bottom item in the dialog, no matter what it is, to get the "Desktop Settings - Plasma Desktop Shell" dialog, 
    then choose "Default Desktop" from the "Layout" drop-down menu.
    All working fine now - and now I know how to do one more thing!
    Ok, good to hear!

    But have you tried to just switch to another activity? Maybe you get all your old settings (including the wallpaper) back then.
    You still can try that of course.
    As I said, you switch activities by clicking on the icon with the 3 dots in the panel or selecting "Activities" from the right-click menu.



    I doubt that the type of layout would easily get changed by mistake...
    Last edited by wolfi323; 07-Sep-2014 at 02:00.

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    Default Re: Desktop background image lost after 9/5/14 update [SOLVED]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Ok, good to hear!

    But have you tried to just switch to another activity? Maybe you get all your old settings (including the wallpaper) back then.
    You still can try that of course.
    As I said, you switch activities by clicking on the icon with the 3 dots in the panel or selecting "Activities" from the right-click menu.



    I doubt that the type of layout would easily get changed by mistake...
    Hi Wolfi:

    The "Acivity Manager" (the 3-dot icon) is something in KDE4 that I have studiously avoided, knowing and understanding absolutely nothing, nor finding any user-friendly (understandable) instructions, about it.

    What I HAVE found out - in the last two days - is that if I click on that right-click bottom dialog button - no matter what it says it is, I will get the dialog I was looking for in the first place, which used to come up automatically on a desktop-right-click. From the resulting dialog, the drop-down list for "Layout" has the same function as clicking on the icon with the 3 dots in the panel or selecting "Activities" from the right-click menu.

    All those methods will get me there, but without version-current instruction in the "KDE Help Center" I have to rely on rumor and/or forums, in which SOMEBODY knows what's going on.

    The change I was dealing with did indeed happen during/after a "zypper up" and I found myself lost having not found the usual result of a right-click.

    I'm learning....
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