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    Default Search-Help apps

    Hi,a little help here,
    Does anybody know which is the best option for searching suse+LAN
    and how can i reach man,info pages,etc from GUI
    I have a few things in mind but from very old versions (SuSE 9.3 and after) for example i remember x-man and a search app called dig? or something,
    I will prefer not to load the RAM too much
    any help welcomed
    Current version openSUSE13.1x64

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    Default Re: Search-Help apps

    If you are using KDE, you can view all Man pages by pressing the Gecko head ('Start') and click Help, from there you can see all Man pages, Info Pages etc.
    .: miuku #suse @ irc.freenode.net
    :: miuku@opensuse.org

    .: h​ttps://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Miuku/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miuku View Post
    If you are using KDE, you can view all Man pages by pressing the Gecko head ('Start') and click Help, from there you can see all Man pages, Info Pages etc.
    You can also type "man:/" or "#" as address into Konqueror, dolphin, or the Alt+F2 dialog.
    For a specific man page, use "man:/xxx" or "#xxx".

    For info pages use "info:/" or "##" instead.

    You can f.e. use "apropos" on the command line to search the man pages.

    xman is of course available as well on 13.1, but you might have to install it first. The package is called "xman".

    Regarding "dig": I suppose you meant "htdig", as "dig" is a DNS utility.
    "htdig" is also available, but it's not explicitely designed for man pages search. It's a general WWW index and search utility.

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    Thank you,it's a new world for me
    and for i start i prefer to rediscover things,even if i don't remember the names anymore.

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    On 2014-07-28 10:56, wolfi323 wrote:

    > Regarding "dig": I suppose you meant "htdig", as "dig" is a DNS utility.
    > "htdig" is also available, but it's not explicitely designed for man
    > pages search. It's a general WWW index and search utility.


    It was probably used via package "susehelp" years ago, to generate
    automatically a local help and search web page on the local apache server.

    The package "susehelp" does still exist, but I'm unsure that it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-07-28 10:56, wolfi323 wrote:

    > Regarding "dig": I suppose you meant "htdig", as "dig" is a DNS utility.
    > "htdig" is also available, but it's not explicitely designed for man
    > pages search. It's a general WWW index and search utility.


    It was probably used via package "susehelp" years ago, to generate
    automatically a local help and search web page on the local apache server.

    The package "susehelp" does still exist, but I'm unsure that it works.
    Well, susehelp comes with its own "susedig"...
    But apparently it is supposed to use htdig for the indexing when you set it up as documentation server.

    Running susehelp just opens the KDE helpcenter here.

    The documentation how to set up a susehelp server is in /usr/share/doc/packages/susehelp/README, but that's outdated.
    It requires SuSEconfig all the way for setting up the server and automatic refreshing of the index.
    And even when you do the things SuSEconfig did manually, it doesn't work. In particular the included apache2 httpd.conf doesn't work any more with Apache 2.4 and prevents Apache from even starting. You might get it to work by changing it accordingly, but I haven't bothered yet.

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    On 2014-07-28 16:56, wolfi323 wrote:

    >> The package "susehelp" does still exist, but I'm unsure that it works.
    >>

    > Well, susehelp comes with its own "susedig"...
    > But apparently it is supposed to use htdig for the indexing when you set
    > it up as documentation server.
    >
    > Running susehelp just opens the KDE helpcenter here.
    >
    > The documentation how to set up a susehelp server is in
    > /usr/share/doc/packages/susehelp/README, but that's outdated.
    > It requires SuSEconfig all the way for setting up the server and
    > automatic refreshing of the index.
    > And even when you do the things SuSEconfig did manually, it doesn't
    > work. In particular the included apache2 httpd.conf doesn't work any
    > more with Apache 2.4 and prevents Apache from even starting. You might
    > get it to work by changing it accordingly, but I haven't bothered yet.


    Sigh... Decades ago, say on SuSE 6.x, susehelp was wonderful. You got
    the local help server in text mode, or in graphical mode. You could
    search on the contents. You could install the "SDB", a database of local
    html pages where many problems and their solutions were listed (the sdb
    is nowdays part of the opensuse.org wiki). It was updated frequently and
    you could set a cronjob to download the modifications, if you had
    Internet. You could install man pages, info pages, howtos, the SuSE
    books, some other books... and almost all was searchable (not the
    postscript or dvi books).

    Not everybody had Internet, or it was slow and expensive (mine was 9 or
    14 kbit/s, paying per minute). So having all that material installed
    from the install DVD was wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    Sigh... Decades ago, say on SuSE 6.x, susehelp was wonderful.
    ...
    Well, I was able to get it to run, by just removing the offending line in the Apache config file.
    Even searching worked, after I ran "susehelpindex" manually which indexed the following stuff on my system with the default config:

    • release-notes-openSUSE (Release Notes)
    • kde_application_manuals (KDE Application Manuals)
    • pythonhtml (Python)
    • selfhtml (Selfhtml)
    • books-lkmpg (Linux Kernel Module Programming Guide (Pt. 1))
    • books-lkmpg2 (Linux Kernel Module Programming Guide (Pt. 2))
    • qt3 (QT 3 developer information)


    But the KDE and GNOME links didn't work.
    And clicking on info files also, with the following in the Apache error log:
    Code:
    [Mon Jul 28 17:01:15.504629 2014] [cgi:error] [pid 12667] [client ::1:38883] AH01215: $* is no longer supported at /srv/www/cgi-bin//info2html line 335., referer: http://localhost/susehelp/cgi-bin/susesearch.cgi?lang=de&cgiprefix=%2Fsusehelp%2Fcgi-bin%2F&fileprefix=&header=1&words=apropos&Submit=Suche&num=5&method=and&scope=info&scope=man&lang=de&cgiprefix=%2Fsusehelp%2Fcgi-bin%2F&fileprefix=
    
    [Mon Jul 28 17:01:15.543064 2014] [cgi:error] [pid 12667] [client ::1:38883] AH01215: , referer: http://localhost/susehelp/cgi-bin/susesearch.cgi?lang=de&cgiprefix=%2Fsusehelp%2Fcgi-bin%2F&fileprefix=&header=1&words=apropos&Submit=Suche&num=5&method=and&scope=info&scope=man&lang=de&cgiprefix=%2Fsusehelp%2Fcgi-bin%2F&fileprefix=
    The same happens when I open "http://localhost/cgi-bin/info2html" in a browser and click on one of the links on the main index.
    So apparently the included info2html doesn't work any more either with the current perl...
    Last edited by wolfi323; 28-Jul-2014 at 11:04.

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    PS: Running susehelp in text mode does indeed open that documentation index page in a text mode browser (w3m).
    The same limitations apply there of course.

    So it does work to some extend (after some manual setup work), but not fully.

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    Nice memos i hope for you and me,
    i will check what is possible from the last posts (not Apache config files for now).

    By the way ancient SuSE versions had a command-line application that was able to generate reports of the system in formats of your choice(html,etc)
    and if i remember well you also had the option to change the config files.
    The program it was generating also generic reports of the system,hw included.

    Do you remember the command?

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