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    Default Re: Kernel bug ? unknown partition table on some usb flash drives

    If you do not properly unmount a device that is Windows format it can leave it in an inconsistent state. By design Linux will not mount such a device. So if you have a good USB and put it in a Windows machine and then write stuff and remove it without properly setting remove drive then the the file system will be in an unknown state. Linux can't fix Windows stuff so it refuse to mount. Windows knows how to fix its file system so will mount it.Note if you do the same in Linux with a Linux file system you get the same thing but Linux knows how to fix Linux file systems

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    Default Re: Kernel bug ? unknown partition table on some usb flash drives

    On 2014-07-13 02:16, robertot5 wrote:

    >> I hate to state the obvious, but sbd != sdb!

    > My bad !


    :-)


    > mount /dev/sdb
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
    > missing codepage or helper program, or other error
    >
    >
    > In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
    > dmesg | tail or so.
    >
    > --------------------


    Ok... Too bad. My guess then appears wrong.

    Did you look in syslog?


    > mount /dev/sdb1
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
    >
    > --------------------


    Well, that one is not surprising, as the table is not seen or looks
    corrupted.

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    Default Re: Kernel bug ? unknown partition table on some usb flash drives

    On 2014-07-13 02:16, robertot5 wrote:


    > mount /dev/sdb


    I forgot: try "mount -v /dev/sdb" instead.

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    Default Re: Kernel bug ? unknown partition table on some usb flash drives

    Please take gogalthorpe's advice serious. To me this looks as improper removal from a Windows system.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Kernel bug ? unknown partition table on some usb flash drives

    On 2014-07-13 13:16, hcvv wrote:
    >
    > Please take gogalthorpe's advice serious. To me this looks as improper
    > removal from a Windows system.


    Depends.

    If the filesystem is really in a partition, then no. No, because Linux
    does not see the partitions, it sees the table as bad. It aborts way
    before attempting to mount anything, dirty or clean.

    If the filesystem is in the raw device, with no partition table, then
    perhaps - but then the mount attempt would say that the filesystem is
    dirty, not that it can not find inodes. To be sure we need the detailed
    syslog output, or sometimes the verbose output of mount.

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    Default Re: Kernel bug ? unknown partition table on some usb flash drives

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-07-13 13:16, hcvv wrote:
    >
    > Please take gogalthorpe's advice serious. To me this looks as improper
    > removal from a Windows system.


    Depends.

    If the filesystem is really in a partition, then no. No, because Linux
    does not see the partitions, it sees the table as bad. It aborts way
    before attempting to mount anything, dirty or clean.

    If the filesystem is in the raw device, with no partition table, then
    perhaps - but then the mount attempt would say that the filesystem is
    dirty, not that it can not find inodes. To be sure we need the detailed
    syslog output, or sometimes the verbose output of mount.

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    Ok,

    mount -v says the same error
    Code:
    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
           missing codepage or helper program, or other error
    
    
           In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
           dmesg | tail or so.
    mount -v on sdb1 says the same
    Code:
    mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
    I also did a "dd" of the flash drive just to have a .img for further testing

    This is a "tail -f /var/log/messages" of unplugging the flash drive then plugging it again
    Code:
    2014-07-13T17:33:29.959239+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42518.556488] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, device number 4
    2014-07-13T17:33:39.620943+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42528.214635] usb 2-1: new high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-pci
    2014-07-13T17:33:39.739913+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42528.334478] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=13fe, idProduct=4100
    2014-07-13T17:33:39.739930+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42528.334482] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
    2014-07-13T17:33:39.739931+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42528.334484] usb 2-1: Product: USB DISK 2.0
    2014-07-13T17:33:39.739932+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42528.334486] usb 2-1: Manufacturer:         
    2014-07-13T17:33:39.739932+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42528.334487] usb 2-1: SerialNumber: 070D27888255C220
    2014-07-13T17:33:39.741050+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42528.335305] usb-storage 2-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
    2014-07-13T17:33:39.741061+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42528.335382] scsi10 : usb-storage 2-1:1.0
    2014-07-13T17:33:39.811436+03:00 linux-jspa mtp-probe: checking bus 2, device 5: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.2/usb2/2-1"
    2014-07-13T17:33:39.812259+03:00 linux-jspa mtp-probe: bus: 2, device: 5 was not an MTP device
    2014-07-13T17:33:40.830604+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42529.424234] scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access              USB DISK 2.0     PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
    2014-07-13T17:33:40.830615+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42529.424565] sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
    2014-07-13T17:33:41.789943+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42530.383253] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] 7579008 512-byte logical blocks: (3.88 GB/3.61 GiB)
    2014-07-13T17:33:41.789959+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42530.384001] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
    2014-07-13T17:33:41.789965+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42530.384008] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
    2014-07-13T17:33:41.790915+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42530.384618] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
    2014-07-13T17:33:41.790929+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42530.384621] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
    2014-07-13T17:33:41.816208+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42530.409480]  sdb: unknown partition table
    2014-07-13T17:33:41.819942+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42530.413010] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
    Now this is when I plug in a working flash drive, FAT32 also, it auto mounts and evrything works fine with it
    Code:
    2014-07-13T17:35:56.934941+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42665.490161] usb 2-1: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
    2014-07-13T17:35:57.050936+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42665.606665] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=125f, idProduct=c82a
    2014-07-13T17:35:57.050953+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42665.606669] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
    2014-07-13T17:35:57.050954+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42665.606671] usb 2-1: Product: ADATA USB Flash Drive
    2014-07-13T17:35:57.050955+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42665.606673] usb 2-1: Manufacturer: ADATA
    2014-07-13T17:35:57.050956+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42665.606674] usb 2-1: SerialNumber: 11B1018002240083
    2014-07-13T17:35:57.050956+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42665.606946] usb-storage 2-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
    2014-07-13T17:35:57.052727+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42665.607547] scsi11 : usb-storage 2-1:1.0
    2014-07-13T17:35:57.054075+03:00 linux-jspa mtp-probe: checking bus 2, device 6: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.2/usb2/2-1"
    2014-07-13T17:35:57.072825+03:00 linux-jspa mtp-probe: bus: 2, device: 6 was not an MTP device
    2014-07-13T17:35:58.054468+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42666.609456] scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ADATA    USB Flash Drive  0.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
    2014-07-13T17:35:58.054484+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42666.609710] sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
    2014-07-13T17:35:58.057939+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42666.613328] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] 7892992 512-byte logical blocks: (4.04 GB/3.76 GiB)
    2014-07-13T17:35:58.058955+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42666.614070] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
    2014-07-13T17:35:58.058969+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42666.614074] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00
    2014-07-13T17:35:58.058971+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42666.614697] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
    2014-07-13T17:35:58.058972+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42666.614701] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
    2014-07-13T17:35:58.064926+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42666.619953]  sdb: sdb1
    2014-07-13T17:35:58.071941+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [42666.627560] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
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    Plugged the flash drive into a Windows machine, worked just fine. I also did a scan using the Windows tools and it didn't find any errors, nor with chkdsk.

    This is what hwinfo says regarding that usb port and flash drive
    Code:
    42: SCSI c00.0: 10600 Disk
      [Created at block.245]
      Unique ID: FKGF.kvXvj8RfAhD
      Parent ID: 06bT.jPsMPYxld01
      SysFS ID: /class/block/sdb
      SysFS BusID: 12:0:0:0
      SysFS Device Link: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.2/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/host12/target12:0:0/12:0:0:0
      Hardware Class: disk
      Model: "USB DISK 2.0"
      Vendor: usb 0x13fe 
      Device: usb 0x4100 "USB DISK 2.0"
      Revision: "PMAP"
      Serial ID: "0C7202D02070"
      Driver: "usb-storage", "sd"
      Driver Modules: "usb_storage"
      Device File: /dev/sdb (/dev/sg2)
      Device Files: /dev/sdb, /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-1USB_DISK_2.0, /dev/disk/by-id/usb-_USB_DISK_2.0_070D27888255C220-0:0, /dev/disk/by-path/pci-0000:00:13.2-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0
      Device Number: block 8:16-8:31 (char 21:2)
      Geometry (Logical): CHS 1018/120/62
      Size: 7579008 sectors a 512 bytes
      Capacity: 3 GB (3880452096 bytes)
      Speed: 480 Mbps
      Module Alias: "usb:v13FEp4100d0100dc00dsc00dp00ic08isc06ip50in00"
      Driver Info #0:
        Driver Status: uas is not active
        Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe uas"
      Driver Info #1:
        Driver Status: usb_storage is active
        Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usb_storage"
      Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
      Attached to: #21 (USB Controller)
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    Default Re: Kernel bug ? unknown partition table on some usb flash drives

    On 2014-07-13 16:46, robertot5 wrote:

    > Ok,
    >
    > mount -v says the same error
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
    > missing codepage or helper program, or other error
    >
    >
    > In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
    > dmesg | tail or so.
    >
    > --------------------


    And that syslog info you posted... where?


    > I also did a "dd" of the flash drive just to have a .img for further
    > testing
    >
    > This is a "tail -f /var/log/messages" of unplugging the flash drive then
    > plugging it again


    No, I want it while you try to mount it as above. That's the syslog
    output I asked for yesterday, and which the mount command error text is
    telling you to do. So please, do it.

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    Default Re: Kernel bug ? unknown partition table on some usb flash drives

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-07-13 16:46, robertot5 wrote:

    > Ok,
    >
    > mount -v says the same error
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
    > missing codepage or helper program, or other error
    >
    >
    > In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
    > dmesg | tail or so.
    >
    > --------------------


    And that syslog info you posted... where?


    > I also did a "dd" of the flash drive just to have a .img for further
    > testing
    >
    > This is a "tail -f /var/log/messages" of unplugging the flash drive then
    > plugging it again


    No, I want it while you try to mount it as above. That's the syslog
    output I asked for yesterday, and which the mount command error text is
    telling you to do. So please, do it.

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    You mean watching "tail -f /var/log/messages" while running "mount -v /dev/sdb /mnt/flashdrive" ?

    I just ran that and it doesn't append anything in /var/log/messages
    mount -v /dev/sdb /mnt/flashdrive
    Code:
    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
           missing codepage or helper program, or other error
    
    
           In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
           dmesg | tail or so.
    /var/log/messages before

    Code:
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.514582+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.622101] usb 2-1: new high-speed USB device number 8 using ehci-pci
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634562+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742140] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=13fe, idProduct=4100
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634578+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742145] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634578+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742147] usb 2-1: Product: USB DISK 2.0
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634579+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742148] usb 2-1: Manufacturer:         
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634580+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742150] usb 2-1: SerialNumber: 070D27888255C220
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634581+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742420] usb-storage 2-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.635580+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.743679] scsi13 : usb-storage 2-1:1.0
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.637377+03:00 linux-jspa mtp-probe: checking bus 2, device 8: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.2/usb2/2-1"
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.638180+03:00 linux-jspa mtp-probe: bus: 2, device: 8 was not an MTP device
    2014-07-13T21:15:56.725679+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50664.833624] scsi 13:0:0:0: Direct-Access              USB DISK 2.0     PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
    2014-07-13T21:15:56.726858+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50664.834294] sd 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.682554+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.789762] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] 7579008 512-byte logical blocks: (3.88 GB/3.61 GiB)
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.682569+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.790384] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.682570+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.790390] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.684736+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.792157] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.684751+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.792162] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.709555+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.817392]  sdb: unknown partition table
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.715552+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.823401] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk

    same /var/log/messages after running mount -v
    Code:
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.514582+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.622101] usb 2-1: new high-speed USB device number 8 using ehci-pci2014-07-13T21:15:55.634562+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742140] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=13fe, idProduct=4100
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634578+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742145] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634578+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742147] usb 2-1: Product: USB DISK 2.0
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634579+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742148] usb 2-1: Manufacturer:         
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634580+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742150] usb 2-1: SerialNumber: 070D27888255C220
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.634581+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.742420] usb-storage 2-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.635580+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50663.743679] scsi13 : usb-storage 2-1:1.0
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.637377+03:00 linux-jspa mtp-probe: checking bus 2, device 8: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.2/usb2/2-1"
    2014-07-13T21:15:55.638180+03:00 linux-jspa mtp-probe: bus: 2, device: 8 was not an MTP device
    2014-07-13T21:15:56.725679+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50664.833624] scsi 13:0:0:0: Direct-Access              USB DISK 2.0     PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
    2014-07-13T21:15:56.726858+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50664.834294] sd 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.682554+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.789762] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] 7579008 512-byte logical blocks: (3.88 GB/3.61 GiB)
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.682569+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.790384] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.682570+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.790390] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.684736+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.792157] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.684751+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.792162] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.709555+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.817392]  sdb: unknown partition table
    2014-07-13T21:15:57.715552+03:00 linux-jspa kernel: [50665.823401] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
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    Default Re: Kernel bug ? unknown partition table on some usb flash drives

    On 2014-07-13 20:26, robertot5 wrote:

    > You mean watching "tail -f /var/log/messages" while running "mount -v
    > /dev/sdb /mnt/flashdrive" ?


    Absolutely! :-)


    > I just ran that and it doesn't append anything in /var/log/messages
    > mount -v /dev/sdb /mnt/flashdrive


    There has to be something. :-o

    I just tried with a stick of mine, with a valid partition table; but attempting to mount the raw device instead:


    Code:
    Telcontar:~ # mount -v /dev/sda  /mnt/tmp
    mount: /dev/sda is write-protected, mounting read-only
    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
    missing codepage or helper program, or other error
    
    In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
    dmesg | tail or so.
    Telcontar:~ #
    syslog:

    Code:
    <0.4> 2014-07-13 23:57:18 Telcontar kernel - - - [440237.395486] UDF-fs: warning (device sda): udf_fill_super: No partition found (2)

    and dmesg says (the last line is the one):


    Code:
    [440223.958541] scsi 15:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TOSHIBA  TransMemory      1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
    [440223.958749] sd 15:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
    [440223.961049] sd 15:0:0:0: [sda] 15155200 512-byte logical blocks: (7.75 GB/7.22 GiB)
    [440223.961656] sd 15:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
    [440223.961659] sd 15:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 45 00 00 00
    [440223.962284] sd 15:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
    [440223.965914]  sda: sda1
    [440223.969033] sd 15:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk
    [440237.395486] UDF-fs: warning (device sda): udf_fill_super: No partition found (2)
    Telcontar:~ #

    I can force the issue, and assume that it is an vfat filesystem (which it is not):


    Code:
    Telcontar:~ # mount -v -t vfat /dev/sda  /mnt/tmp
    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
    missing codepage or helper program, or other error
    
    In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
    dmesg | tail or so.
    Telcontar:~ #

    And syslog says:


    Code:
    <0.3> 2014-07-14 00:01:35 Telcontar kernel - - - [440494.339191] FAT-fs (sda): invalid media value (0xb9)
    <0.6> 2014-07-14 00:01:35 Telcontar kernel - - - [440494.339195] FAT-fs (sda): Can't find a valid FAT filesystem

    which is correct and expected.


    There has to be something in the log.


    In your case, there is the possibility that your stick is formatted as "exfat", which is not supported by openSUSE and can not be mounted.

    Frankly, I expected to see in the log how mount tried several filesytem types and failed.


    Maybe... Have a look at "/etc/sysconfig/syslog", this line:

    KERNEL_LOGLEVEL=7

    You probably have "1" in there.

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

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