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    Default Zypper, Who's behind it ?

    Hi everyone

    I wish to know who is behind of Zypper the package manager.

    I"m not currently on OpenSUSE since it's broken.

    Thank you for your attention.

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    http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/...agement-zypper

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    As I've mentioned before I'm an openSUSE user, and as long as they don't make the "U" lower case again, I'll probably stick with it. When it comes to package management, OpenSUSE and SUSE Linux Enterprice (and SuSE before them) are usually associated with YaST (and yes, I'm still waiting for them to upper case the "a"). YaST works well but it's a bit verbose for installing a single package, and of course that's just more fodder for the apt-getters with all their apt-get install this and their apt-get install thats. And you can't argue with them, but there are other options with openSUSE: yum and apt4rpm come to mind, but the preferred solution is zypper.
    
    Zypper is a command line tool for package management, it's based on ZYpp, aka libzypp. The WikiPedia entry for Zypp says:
    
        Unlike other common package managers, it provides a powerful satisfiability solver to compute package dependencies and a convenient package management API.
    
    Since we don't want our heads to explode we'll just take it for granted that a powerful satisfiability solver is a good thing.
    
    It turns out that YaST is also (now) based on ZYpp so you don't need to worry that you're missing out on something by using zypper.
    
    Zypper is fairly straightforward to use. If you want to search for a package do zypper search STRING.... The STRING(s) can include * and ? wildcards and there are options for matching all or any of the strings and for full exact matches (the default is a partial match). If you want to search the package descriptions there's an option for that also. For example to search for packages with the word "mail" in the name or in the description do:
    
    $ zypper search --search-descriptions mail
    $ # --search-descriptions can be abbreviated as -d
    Reading installed packages...
    
    S | Name                 | Summary                                | Type
    --+----------------------+----------------------------------------+-----------
      | Buddi                | Buddi - Personal budget software ...   | package
      | CgEddie              | A simple editor with syntax high ...   | package
      | FrostWire            | Gnutella peer-to-peer (P2P) file ...   | package
      ...
    i | yast2-mail           | YaST2 - Mail Configuration             | package
      | yast2-mail-plugins   | YaST2-Users/Group Plugins for the ...  | package
      | yum-updatesd         | YUM update notification daemon         | package
    
    When installing packages with zypper, as you'd expect/hope, zypper takes care of installing the package's dependencies:
    
    $ zypper install Buddi
    Reading installed packages...
    
    The following NEW packages are going to be installed:
      BrowserLauncher2 swingx Buddi jcommon jfreechart
    
    Overall download size: 4.1 M. After the operation, additional 5.2 M will be used.
    Continue? [YES/no]:
    
    Some of the other interesting commands that zypper supports are:
    
        refresh - to refresh the package information from the repositories you have defined.
        addrepo - to add a new repository.
        remove - to remove a package.
        list-updates - to list the updates/patches that are available for the packages you have installed.
    
    For a full list of the commands that zypper supports type zypper help and check the man page for more details.
    
    One of Ubuntu's WOW factors seems to be apt-get dist-upgrade, i.e. the ability to upgrade to the next version of Ubuntu (and actually it's a feature of any debian based distro). This is another thing that the apt-getters puff up about, well enter zypper dist-upgrade or zypper dup. This allows you to upgrade from one version of openSUSE to the next. I have not used this feature yet, but posts on the openSUSE wiki seem to indicate that it works well.
    
    So to all you apt-getters out there, all I can say is: zypp it. :

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    https://github.com/openSUSE/zypper

    Found this. I wonder what makes Zypper be on my computer...

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    Default Re: Zypper, Who's behind it ?

    On 2014-06-24 17:26, binarydepth wrote:
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    > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/...agement-zypper


    That article is from 2009.


    >> Zypper is a command line tool for package management, it's based on ZYpp, aka libzypp.



    Well, there was an old packager manager that was a total failure, I
    think it was zen. libzypp is the sucessful sucessor.

    About your initial question, of course it is openSUSE who is behind
    zypper, with its sponsors.

    http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Libzypp

    And of course you get it installed on any openSUSE machine. It would be
    a very unwise move to remove it.

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    Default Re: Zypper, Who's behind it ?

    Quote Originally Posted by binarydepth View Post
    Hi everyone

    I wish to know who is behind of Zypper the package manager.

    I"m not currently on OpenSUSE since it's broken.

    Thank you for your attention.
    Hi
    Your question (and posts) are a little confusing as to what the issue is?

    Your on a different OS, but using zypper and it's not working?

    There is a link to the developers here?
    http://en.opensuse.org/Portalypper
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    Default Re: Zypper, Who's behind it ?

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:26:01 +0000, binarydepth wrote:

    > I"m not currently on OpenSUSE since it's broken.


    Please specify the nature of the breakage. Zypper is *the* main package
    manager outside of YaST's software management, so if it's broken, ask
    here for help. Provide details about the version of openSUSE, the exact
    error message or messages you receive, and what you've tried.

    Jim



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    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:26:01 +0000, binarydepth wrote:

    > I"m not currently on OpenSUSE since it's broken.


    Please specify the nature of the breakage. Zypper is *the* main package
    manager outside of YaST's software management, so if it's broken, ask
    here for help. Provide details about the version of openSUSE, the exact
    error message or messages you receive, and what you've tried.

    Jim



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    Don't worry I was able to back-up everything. I decided to make my own with Susestudio and then get back to OpenSUSE. But the downlaod always fails.

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    Default Re: Zypper, Who's behind it ?

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:06:01 +0000, binarydepth wrote:

    > Don't worry I was able to back-up everything. I decided to make my own
    > with Susestudio and then get back to OpenSUSE. But the downlaod always
    > fails.


    Again, we need specifics as to what you're seeing. "always fails"
    doesn't tell us a lot. Same sort of thing with zypper not working.

    We're not mind readers - we only know what you tell us. If you don't
    provide specific error messages or details, we can't help.

    Jim



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    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:06:01 +0000, binarydepth wrote:

    > Don't worry I was able to back-up everything. I decided to make my own
    > with Susestudio and then get back to OpenSUSE. But the downlaod always
    > fails.


    Again, we need specifics as to what you're seeing. "always fails"
    doesn't tell us a lot. Same sort of thing with zypper not working.

    We're not mind readers - we only know what you tell us. If you don't
    provide specific error messages or details, we can't help.

    Jim


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    Sorry I meant that the download of my "Suse Studio ISO image" always fails to finish downloading.

    The faulty System is wiped-out of my HDD.

    So not a problem for me anymore. Too bad I can't figure out what happened but let's check the BUG mailing list for some day if I see something like "I cannot boot" I'll check on it.

    So lets be clear I didn't imagine that I was using Zypper I just was asking for information of who is behind it. Completely far from asking help with Zypper , I never had problems with it, it's great. But something broke the booting process.

    The only thing I can say is that I was using various Packman repositories for multimedia apps. I think they were Essentials and one Called Multimedia ( Add "Packman" before, for each ). But I guess that has nothing to do, so it will be better to check if it happens to other users.

    OK, Thanks.

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    Default Re: Zypper, Who's behind it ?

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 01:06:02 +0000, binarydepth wrote:

    > Sorry I meant that the download of my "Suse Studio ISO image" always
    > fails to finish downloading.


    Ah, OK - that makes sense. I hope you were able to sort that out.

    > The faulty System is wiped-out of my HDD.
    >
    > So not a problem for me anymore. Too bad I can't figure out what
    > happened but let's check the BUG mailing list for some day if I see
    > something like "I cannot boot" I'll check on it.
    >
    > So lets be clear I didn't imagine that I was using Zypper I just was
    > asking for information of who is behind it. Completely far from asking
    > help with Zypper , I never had problems with it, it's great. But
    > something broke the booting process.


    It's not clear what you mean by "who's behind it" - zypper is a part of
    openSUSE. Do you mean "who's behind the repositories zypper uses"? If
    so, well, that depends on the repository.

    > The only thing I can say is that I was using various Packman
    > repositories for multimedia apps. I think they were Essentials and one
    > Called Multimedia ( Add "Packman" before, for each ). But I guess that
    > has nothing to do, so it will be better to check if it happens to other
    > users.


    Using those repos isn't generally going to cause boot issues, since
    they're applications that are used by the user and not by the system
    itself. If you run into it again, we can diagnose it (perhaps), but
    you'll need to provide specific information about what you're seeing
    rather than guessing about the cause.

    Jim



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