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    Default 12.3 total Backup.

    What is the best way to Backup the whole system? I have been following
    the thread on backup with YaSt but did not want to ask this on it has
    it would be slightly off topic.

    I current use rsync to Backup up /home but have not figured out all the
    parameters to make it the most compact.

    I want to backup my 12.3 disk completely before installing 13.2 for
    testing. Signature has current system I will be using for backup or
    should I completely update 12.3 and then use 12.3 to backup whole disk.

    Thanks for any pointers

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    Default Re: 12.3 total Backup.

    On 2014-06-20 17:32, upscope wrote:

    > I want to backup my 12.3 disk completely before installing 13.2 for
    > testing.


    For a full backup, needed for a full recovery from scratch
    (emergencies), I'd use clonezilla full disk backup.

    Reasonable fast and safe. Caveat is you need to boot it from cd or usb
    stick, and have the machine offline for some time, perhaps hours.

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    Default Re: 12.3 total Backup.

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-06-20 17:32, upscope wrote:

    > I want to backup my 12.3 disk completely before installing 13.2 for
    > testing.


    For a full backup, needed for a full recovery from scratch
    (emergencies), I'd use clonezilla full disk backup.

    Reasonable fast and safe. Caveat is you need to boot it from cd or usb
    stick, and have the machine offline for some time, perhaps hours.

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    Agreed. The same advice from me. Of course, you will need another large enough storage device, such as a second drive or an external drive, to save the Clonezilla backup archives on.

    BTW: I use Clonezilla to create a full drive backup once a month, keeping a few on the external drive and rotating them. Once a week, I synchronize my DATA directories to external drives using Unison, and use Clonezilla to backup the /home partition to the external drive. I keep several of those on the external, rotating them.

    Has proven to be a priceless, often called-upon rescue plan.

    Also note: There is a network version of Clonezilla that can go out to machines on your network with the Clonezilla client installed and back up according to schedules, and so forth. In fact, I think it can tunnel across the internet.
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    Default Re: 12.3 total Backup.

    On 2014-06-20 23:36, Fraser Bell wrote:

    > Agreed. The same advice from me. Of course, you will need another
    > large enough storage device, such as a second drive or an external
    > drive, to save the Clonezilla backup archives on.


    I'm considering preparing a big HD with a small system partition, to
    install there a small rescue system, which includes clonezilla. The rest
    of the hard disk would be a huge data partition to store the backup,
    possibly encrypted.

    I actually have such an external boot hard disk prepared, but not with
    clonezilla.

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    Default Re: 12.3 total Backup.

    Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > On 2014-06-20 23:36, Fraser Bell wrote:
    >
    >> Agreed. The same advice from me. Of course, you will need another
    >> large enough storage device, such as a second drive or an external
    >> drive, to save the Clonezilla backup archives on.

    >
    > I'm considering preparing a big HD with a small system partition, to
    > install there a small rescue system, which includes clonezilla. The
    > rest of the hard disk would be a huge data partition to store the
    > backup, possibly encrypted.
    >
    > I actually have such an external boot hard disk prepared, but not

    with
    > clonezilla.
    >

    Thanks for the responses. I will look at Clonezilla. I have an
    external 1 TB drive I use strictly for backups. It has 100GB for
    Windows studd, 400 GB for 12.3 and 500 GB for 13.1. Will get rid of
    the 12.3 part soon and use it.

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    Default Re: 12.3 total Backup.

    On 2014-06-21 16:49, upscope wrote:
    > Carlos E. R. wrote:


    ....

    > Thanks for the responses. I will look at Clonezilla. I have an
    > external 1 TB drive I use strictly for backups. It has 100GB for
    > Windows studd, 400 GB for 12.3 and 500 GB for 13.1. Will get rid of
    > the 12.3 part soon and use it.


    If you use it for backups, you don't need separate partitions for each
    Linux system; a single huge partition with directories conserves more space.

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    Default Re: 12.3 total Backup.

    Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > On 2014-06-21 16:49, upscope wrote:
    >> Carlos E. R. wrote:

    >
    > ...
    >
    >> Thanks for the responses. I will look at Clonezilla. I have an
    >> external 1 TB drive I use strictly for backups. It has 100GB for
    >> Windows, 400 GB for 12.3 and 500 GB for 13.1. Will get rid of
    >> the 12.3 part soon and use it.

    >
    > If you use it for backups, you don't need separate partitions for

    each
    > Linux system; a single huge partition with directories conserves more
    > space.

    Thanks. I will look at doing that when and if I ever get 13.2 to
    install. I'm having some kind of BIOS issue with the drives order. I
    will be opening a new thread on that.
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    Default Question about Clonezilla

    Like the OP I was looking to completely back up my system. I downloaded and made a "disk" image of my system. What I'm wondering is, let's say that the hard disk that my OS is on explodes today, will I be able to restore that image to a new hard disk so long as it is of equal or greater size? Should I Be making disk or partition images for this purpose?

    My setup is:
    100Gb SSD Drive for '/' and '/home'
    1Tb HDD for '/storage'.

    Any advice on this matter would be appreciated. I'm a bit of a back-up freak and would like to know what the best course would be to restore to a new disk.

    - Greg

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    Default Re: 12.3 total Backup.

    On 2014-06-23 14:26, gregORe wrote:
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    > Like the OP I was looking to completely back up my system. I downloaded
    > and made a "disk" image of my system. What I'm wondering is, let's say
    > that the hard disk that my OS is on explodes today, will I be able to
    > restore that image to a new hard disk so long as it is of equal or
    > greater size?


    Yes. If the destination is at least the same size, restore is easy.
    However, often you have to edit fstab and grub settings to match.

    If the destination is bigger, resizing is possible, but not always
    trivial. The restore application may support this automatically, if not,
    can often be done manually.

    If the destination is smaller, only some sophisticated imaging software
    can handle this with relative ease.


    > Any advice on this matter would be appreciated. I'm a bit of a back-up
    > freak and would like to know what the best course would be to restore to
    > a new disk.


    I keep images of partitions needed for the system to boot, and file
    backups for data partitions (which are often much bigger). Sometimes I
    also keep (simultaneous to the image) file backups of the system areas,
    in order to be able to easily look at older versions of config files.

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    Default Re: Question about Clonezilla

    Quote Originally Posted by gregORe View Post
    ... will I be able to restore that image to a new hard disk so long as it is of equal or greater size?
    Yes.

    Should I Be making disk or partition images for this purpose?
    If Using Clonezilla:

    I tend to make sure I have both. You could create your new disk with a slightly older full-disk image, then restore a later, more up-to-date /home partition image, or even restore to a spare space to rescue one or two crucial files you have somehow "misplaced" since you made your last backups.

    I rotate on the basis of 1 Full Disk backup per month, and a partition image backup of my data on a weekly basis.

    Note that, from a full disk backup made by Clonezilla, you can choose to simply restore only one of the partitions, so you don't need to make partition images at the same time you do your full backup.
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