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    Hi,
    first of all, i'm not new to linux, i've been using ubuntu for couple of years. now i decided to switch to opensuse, just to try something new. first thing i noticed is that software i download through yast is really big, with lots of dependancies. in ubuntu, when i download vlc it takes only 15-25mb of space, here it took 300mb. same thing with other software. is this normal, or did i configuered something wrong? i would also like to know how to delete downloaded software installers, i have no clue.
    thanks for replies in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elefteros View Post
    first thing i noticed is that software i download through yast is really big, with lots of dependancies. in ubuntu, when i download vlc it takes only 15-25mb of space, here it took 300mb. same thing with other software. is this normal, or did i configuered something wrong?
    VLC should not need 300MB. The VLC packages themselves have about 13 MB plus 25MB for the translations (vlc-noX-lang).
    And its dependencies shouldn't be 300MB as well.

    But maybe you installed from the LiveCD? This misses lots of recommended packages (translations f.e.) due to space constraints. Those get installed automatically when you enter YaST to install software the first time.
    So it just might have looked like VLC needs all of this, although it doesn't.

    Btw, which version of VLC did you install?
    The one that's included misses support for non-free codecs.
    You should add the Packman repo in YaST->Software Repositories (click on "Add" and then choose "Community Repositories"), and then install "vlc-codecs" as well.

    See also one of the many codec installation guides here and elsewhere.

    i would also like to know how to delete downloaded software installers, i have no clue.
    What software installers do you mean?
    If you install software with YaST/zypper or the update applet, the packages themselves get deleted automatically after the installation.

    If you want to remove installed software, just right-click on the corresponding package in YaST and choose "Remove" or click on the green tick left of the package until it changes to a red cross.

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    On 18/05/2014 16:56, elefteros wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    > first of all, i'm not new to linux, i've been using ubuntu for couple of
    > years. now i decided to switch to opensuse, just to try something new.
    > first thing i noticed is that software i download through yast is really
    > big, with lots of dependancies. in ubuntu, when i download vlc it takes
    > only 15-25mb of space, here it took 300mb. same thing with other
    > software. is this normal, or did i configuered something wrong?


    Depends.

    And that's the key word, "dependencies" ;-)

    If your machine was recently installed, you need to install updates,
    which can be a ton. If you installed from the KDE/Gnome Live "CDs",
    there were components which installation was delayed, because they don't
    fit on the CD. When you try to install something else, both things hit.

    Then, the real multimedia stuff is not installed by default, but you
    have to pick it up from outside the official distribution, from packman
    usually - which means that you might have pending installation a lot of
    multimedia stuff.

    And lastly, clicking installation of a single package may trigger
    installation of a ton of dependencies.

    > i would
    > also like to know how to delete downloaded software installers, i have
    > no clue.


    Like which one? :-?

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    Carlos E. R.
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    guys, thanks for quick answers

    i installed opensuse from cd, so that's probably my problem
    also i didnt add packman repository.

    i think i'll download full dvd and reinstall system, to see how that works.

    cheers

    PS i didn't know yast autodeletes installed packages.

    cheers

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    On 18/05/2014 17:56, elefteros wrote:

    > i think i'll download full dvd and reinstall system, to see how that
    > works.


    The difference is not that big, the needed updates are the same.

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    Carlos E. R.
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    You don't need to reinstall. There are a few extra packages but the big difference is that the full DVD has both major desktops on it plus some additional that you do not get from the live DVD

    The RPMs by default are deleted you can configure it to keep them if you want.

    The over all size of any download depends on what you grab. If you download everything that has a given name in it then you can get an large amount of stuff including source code

    For VLC get the version from packman since openSUSE does not supply any proprietary codecs. note the word open in the name

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