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    On 2014-05-13 05:36, alanbortu wrote:
    >
    > Okay so this is what fstab is set to:
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    >
    > /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_HD103SJ_S246J9EB917733-part2 swap swap defaults 0 0
    > UUID=8800f2e9-409b-4faf-944c-fc13e0c5571d / btrfs defaults,noatime,discard 0 0
    > /dev/disk/by-id/ata-KINGSTON_SH103S3120G_50026B722A0480DC-part1 /boot ext4,noatime,discard acl,user_xattr 1 2
    > /dev/system/home /home ext4 defaults,noatime,discard 1 2
    > /dev/sda1 /home/gum/Files btrfs defaults 1 2
    > /dev/sda3 /home/gum/VM ext4 defaults 1 2
    >
    > --------------------



    I'm unsure about that "/dev/system/home" - is that an encrypted
    partition, or an LVM one?

    One thing I would never do is having entries like "/dev/sda1", because
    they can change. Use instead references such as UUID, LABEL, or by-id.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-05-13 05:36, alanbortu wrote:
    >
    > Okay so this is what fstab is set to:
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    >
    > /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_HD103SJ_S246J9EB917733-part2 swap swap defaults 0 0
    > UUID=8800f2e9-409b-4faf-944c-fc13e0c5571d / btrfs defaults,noatime,discard 0 0
    > /dev/disk/by-id/ata-KINGSTON_SH103S3120G_50026B722A0480DC-part1 /boot ext4,noatime,discard acl,user_xattr 1 2
    > /dev/system/home /home ext4 defaults,noatime,discard 1 2
    > /dev/sda1 /home/gum/Files btrfs defaults 1 2
    > /dev/sda3 /home/gum/VM ext4 defaults 1 2
    >
    > --------------------



    I'm unsure about that "/dev/system/home" - is that an encrypted
    partition, or an LVM one?

    One thing I would never do is having entries like "/dev/sda1", because
    they can change. Use instead references such as UUID, LABEL, or by-id.
    Hi
    Perhaps you could expand on how or why they (as in /dev/sdX) might change?
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    On 05/13/2014 12:36 AM, malcolmlewis wrote:
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    >
    > snapper list
    >
    > --------------------
    >
    > I wind my /etc/snapper/configs/root to only have 4 number, 4 hourly, 2
    > daily and 1 monthly and yearly.
    >
    >


    Quite a few.. but how can this affect the disk sleep issue?

    Code:
    ~ # snapper list
    Type   | #   | Pre # | Date                     | User | Cleanup  |
    Description       | Userdata
    -------+-----+-------+--------------------------+------+----------+-------------------+---------
    single | 0   |       |                          | root |          |
    current           |
    single | 3   |       | Mon Apr 28 20:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
    pre    | 20  |       | Mon Apr 28 20:22:01 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 21  | 20    | Mon Apr 28 20:43:21 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 22  |       | Mon Apr 28 20:44:28 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 23  | 22    | Mon Apr 28 20:52:42 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 61  |       | Tue Apr 29 16:14:25 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 62  | 61    | Tue Apr 29 16:21:04 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 83  |       | Wed Apr 30 09:36:55 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 84  | 83    | Wed Apr 30 09:41:37 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 101 |       | Wed Apr 30 23:03:03 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 102 | 101   | Wed Apr 30 23:03:31 2014 | root |          |
    |
    single | 104 |       | Thu May  1 00:15:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
    pre    | 117 |       | Thu May  1 18:26:39 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(y2base)      |
    post   | 119 | 117   | Thu May  1 18:32:34 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 126 |       | Thu May  1 21:06:27 2014 | root |          |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    pre    | 134 |       | Fri May  2 10:28:08 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 135 | 134   | Fri May  2 10:33:42 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 142 |       | Fri May  2 12:18:14 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(y2base)      |
    post   | 143 | 142   | Fri May  2 12:20:51 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 147 |       | Fri May  2 16:06:27 2014 | root | number   |
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    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 152 | 151   | Fri May  2 18:36:59 2014 | root |          |
    |
    single | 159 |       | Sat May  3 00:45:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
    pre    | 164 |       | Sat May  3 12:32:30 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 165 | 164   | Sat May  3 12:38:47 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 167 |       | Sat May  3 13:31:53 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 168 | 167   | Sat May  3 13:32:12 2014 | root |          |
    |
    single | 185 |       | Sun May  4 00:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
    pre    | 205 |       | Sun May  4 16:41:09 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 206 | 205   | Sun May  4 16:42:46 2014 | root |          |
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    zypp(zypper)      |
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    single | 216 |       | Mon May  5 00:30:02 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
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    pre    | 224 |       | Mon May  5 02:29:44 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 226 | 224   | Mon May  5 02:30:07 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 230 |       | Mon May  5 13:43:23 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 231 | 230   | Mon May  5 13:43:50 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 232 |       | Mon May  5 13:46:03 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 233 | 232   | Mon May  5 13:47:44 2014 | root | number   |
    |
    pre    | 235 |       | Mon May  5 14:24:51 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(y2base)      |
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    zypp(y2base)      |
    post   | 238 | 237   | Mon May  5 14:25:16 2014 | root | number   |
    |
    pre    | 247 |       | Mon May  5 22:54:59 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(packagekitd) |
    post   | 248 | 247   | Mon May  5 22:55:12 2014 | root | number   |
    |
    single | 250 |       | Tue May  6 00:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
    pre    | 256 |       | Tue May  6 23:51:05 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 257 | 256   | Wed May  7 00:07:21 2014 | root |          |
    |
    single | 258 |       | Wed May  7 00:45:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
    pre    | 265 |       | Wed May  7 21:42:07 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 267 | 265   | Wed May  7 21:52:08 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 269 |       | Wed May  7 23:42:25 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 270 | 269   | Wed May  7 23:44:21 2014 | root | number   |
    |
    pre    | 272 |       | Wed May  7 23:46:49 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 273 | 272   | Wed May  7 23:48:39 2014 | root | number   |
    |
    single | 274 |       | Thu May  8 08:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
    pre    | 275 |       | Thu May  8 08:17:34 2014 | root |          |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    pre    | 276 |       | Thu May  8 08:30:29 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    post   | 277 | 276   | Thu May  8 08:32:36 2014 | root |          |
    |
    pre    | 279 |       | Thu May  8 19:16:45 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(zypper)      |
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    zypp(y2base)      |
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    pre    | 294 |       | Thu May  8 22:24:55 2014 | root | number   |
    zypp(y2base)      |
    post   | 295 | 294   | Thu May  8 22:26:41 2014 | root | number   |
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    single | 298 |       | Fri May  9 08:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
    pre    | 303 |       | Fri May  9 20:15:21 2014 | root |          |
    zypp(zypper)      |
    single | 307 |       | Sat May 10 00:15:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
    pre    | 314 |       | Sat May 10 16:14:39 2014 | root |          |
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    single | 327 |       | Sun May 11 00:15:02 2014 | root | timeline |
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    single | 356 |       | Mon May 12 00:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
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    single | 368 |       | Mon May 12 15:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    timeline          |
    single | 369 |       | Mon May 12 16:30:02 2014 | root | timeline |
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    pre    | 374 |       | Mon May 12 19:28:17 2014 | root | number   |
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    pre    | 376 |       | Mon May 12 19:28:50 2014 | root | number   |
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    post   | 377 | 376   | Mon May 12 19:29:04 2014 | root | number   |
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    single | 378 |       | Mon May 12 19:30:01 2014 | root | timeline |
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    On 05/13/2014 07:04 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > I'm unsure about that "/dev/system/home" - is that an encrypted
    > partition, or an LVM one?
    >
    > One thing I would never do is having entries like "/dev/sda1", because
    > they can change. Use instead references such as UUID, LABEL, or by-id.
    >

    Yeah its an lvm. And yeah... I got lazy..
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    Quote Originally Posted by alanbortu View Post
    On 05/13/2014 12:36 AM, malcolmlewis wrote:
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    >
    > snapper list
    >
    > --------------------
    >
    > I wind my /etc/snapper/configs/root to only have 4 number, 4 hourly, 2
    > daily and 1 monthly and yearly.
    >
    >


    Quite a few.. but how can this affect the disk sleep issue?
    Hi
    It shouldn't, but the 13.1 defaults are known to be aggressive in the snapshots kept and can fill up the disk....
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    On 2014-05-13 14:20, alanbortu wrote:

    >
    Code:
    > ~ # snapper list
    > Type   | #   | Pre # | Date                     | User | Cleanup  |
    > Description       | Userdata
    > -------+-----+-------+--------------------------+------+----------+-------------------+---------
    > single | 0   |       |                          | root |          |
    > current           |
    > single | 3   |       | Mon Apr 28 20:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    > timeline          |
    > pre    | 20  |       | Mon Apr 28 20:22:01 2014 | root | number   |
    > zypp(zypper)      |
    Code:
    
    > 


    Unfortunatel, your text got wrapped and is difficult to read. Are you
    using nntp with thunderbird?

    Unfortunately, Th wraps long lines by default, and you can not disable
    that when using plain text, only with html. Very unfortunate "feature"
    when pasting code blocks.

    What I do is:

    select the text, ctrl-x, ctrl-shift-O (paste as quotation).

    Code:
    
    >> ~ # snapper list
    >> Type   | #   | Pre # | Date                     | User | Cleanup  | Description       | Userdata
    >> -------+-----+-------+--------------------------+------+----------+-------------------+---------
    >> single | 0   |       |                          | root |          | current           |
    >> single | 3   |       | Mon Apr 28 20:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    This disables text wrap, at the cost of adding a ">" at the left. You
    can remove it, but then the text is wraped again on send.

    Let me try, then we'll see how it comes out on both interfaces.

    Code:
    ~ # snapper list
    Type   | #   | Pre # | Date                     | User | Cleanup  |
    Description       | Userdata
    -------+-----+-------+--------------------------+------+----------+-------------------+---------
    single | 0   |       |                          | root |          |
    current           |
    single | 3   |       | Mon Apr 28 20:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |


    The other method is to disable text wrap or do it at column 200 - but
    then your email recipients complain bitterly. :-/

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    On 2014-05-13 14:16, malcolmlewis wrote:

    > Hi
    > Perhaps you could expand on how or why they (as in /dev/sdX) might
    > change?


    For instance, in my desktop machine. I boot, and my root is, say, on
    sda. Then I plug in an external disk via eSATA interface, and it appears
    on, say, sdg.

    If I hibernate or reboot, with that external disk connected, my machine
    boots correctly, but now the external disk is /dev/sda and my root is on
    /dev/sdb.

    This does not happen for everybody. In my case it means that the eSATA
    cables have higher precedence in the BIOS. But it can happen, and it is
    the reason the kernel devs implemented the /dev/disk-by/ symlinks,
    because they are guaranteed stable across boots.

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    On 2014-05-13 14:20, alanbortu wrote:
    > Quite a few.. but how can this affect the disk sleep issue?


    Maybe it keeps the disk busy for long...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-05-13 14:16, malcolmlewis wrote:

    > Hi
    > Perhaps you could expand on how or why they (as in /dev/sdX) might
    > change?


    For instance, in my desktop machine. I boot, and my root is, say, on
    sda. Then I plug in an external disk via eSATA interface, and it appears
    on, say, sdg.

    If I hibernate or reboot, with that external disk connected, my machine
    boots correctly, but now the external disk is /dev/sda and my root is on
    /dev/sdb.

    This does not happen for everybody. In my case it means that the eSATA
    cables have higher precedence in the BIOS. But it can happen, and it is
    the reason the kernel devs implemented the /dev/disk-by/ symlinks,
    because they are guaranteed stable across boots.
    Hi
    Ahh, ok makes sense I'm fortunate to have not struck that.
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    Default Re: Processes not closing properly

    On 2014-05-13 15:16, malcolmlewis wrote:
    >
    > robin_listas;2642965 Wrote:




    > Hi
    > Ahh, ok makes sense I'm fortunate to have not struck that.


    I know :-)
    Not everybody is aware of this thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-05-13 14:20, alanbortu wrote:

    >
    Code:
    > ~ # snapper list
    > Type   | #   | Pre # | Date                     | User | Cleanup  |
    > Description       | Userdata
    > -------+-----+-------+--------------------------+------+----------+-------------------+---------
    > single | 0   |       |                          | root |          |
    > current           |
    > single | 3   |       | Mon Apr 28 20:00:01 2014 | root | timeline |
    > timeline          |
    > pre    | 20  |       | Mon Apr 28 20:22:01 2014 | root | number   |
    > zypp(zypper)      |
    Code:
    
    > 
    Unfortunatel, your text got wrapped and is difficult to read. Are you
    using nntp with thunderbird?

    Unfortunately, Th wraps long lines by default, and you can not disable
    that when using plain text, only with html. Very unfortunate "feature"
    when pasting code blocks.
    I am at school at the moment. When I get home I will post the output again properly.
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