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    Default 13.1 >> 13.2

    What are the main differences between the current version of 13.1 vs. the future release of 13.2?

    What benefits will users experience?

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    Default Re: 13.1 >> 13.2

    On Mon 05 May 2014 06:36:01 PM CDT, BSDuser wrote:


    What are the main differences between the current version of 13.1 vs.
    the future release of 13.2?

    What benefits will users experience?


    Hi
    Look at the release announcements?
    https://news.opensuse.org/2014/03/19...3-2-kicks-off/


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    Default Re: 13.1 >> 13.2

    On 05/05/2014 02:45 PM, malcolmlewis wrote:
    > https://news.opensuse.org/2014/03/19...3-2-kicks-off/
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    >The btrfs filesystem is default (and comes with btrfsprogs 3.12)


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    Default Re: 13.1 >> 13.2

    In the past, btrfs seemed a bit unstable.

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    Default Re: 13.1 >> 13.2

    Quote Originally Posted by BSDuser View Post
    In the past, btrfs seemed a bit unstable.
    Hi
    No crashes here with either openSUSE, SLES and SLED, snapper needs tweaking though.
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    Default Re: 13.1 >> 13.2

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    No crashes here with either openSUSE, SLES and SLED, snapper needs tweaking though.
    Haven't had any problems with btrfs, but I question the need for Snapper then to default where btrfs is on the root partition of an average desktop home system, e.g on a notebook or laptop.

    The current Snapper defaults (13.1) can easily blow over a 20GB+ partition, unless modified. That relies on users planning and reading openSUSE documentation to avoid running out of system partition space due to aggressive snapshot accumulations by default. Imagine if it came pre-installed with the hardware...
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    Default Re: 13.1 >> 13.2

    On 2014-05-05 21:36, malcolmlewis wrote:
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    > BSDuser;2641432 Wrote:
    >> In the past, btrfs seemed a bit unstable.

    > Hi
    > No crashes here with either openSUSE, SLES and SLED, snapper needs
    > tweaking though.


    On 13.1 I managed to reliably crash btrfs, and make the partition
    unrecoverable. There is a bugzilla for that, which is not officially
    closed, so the issue has not been solved.

    >;-)


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    Default Re: 13.1 >> 13.2

    On Mon 05 May 2014 11:43:06 PM CDT, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    On 2014-05-05 21:36, malcolmlewis wrote:
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    > BSDuser;2641432 Wrote:
    >> In the past, btrfs seemed a bit unstable.

    > Hi
    > No crashes here with either openSUSE, SLES and SLED, snapper needs
    > tweaking though.


    On 13.1 I managed to reliably crash btrfs, and make the partition
    unrecoverable. There is a bugzilla for that, which is not officially
    closed, so the issue has not been solved.

    >;-)


    Hi
    Well I guess you won't like the defaults then.... everyone is different
    in their use cases, for me I have no issues.

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    Default Re: 13.1 >> 13.2

    On 2014-05-06 02:25, malcolmlewis wrote:

    > On Mon 05 May 2014 11:43:06 PM CDT, Carlos E. R. wrote:


    >> On 13.1 I managed to reliably crash btrfs, and make the partition
    >> unrecoverable. There is a bugzilla for that, which is not officially
    >> closed, so the issue has not been solved.
    >>
    >> >;-)


    > Hi
    > Well I guess you won't like the defaults then.... everyone is different
    > in their use cases, for me I have no issues.


    Just try out the test case I used, and find out what happens. Then add a
    comment to Bug 846807 saying whether it crashed or not.


    What did I do? Well... I simply created one million of 100 byte files on
    a 2 GiB btrfs partition. Bizarre? Well, it was just a test, I did not
    expect btrfs to crash. None of xfs, ext4, reiserfs... crashed, they just
    filled (or not).

    The partition was intentionally small in order to stress it more. A
    bigger partition would required billions of files, I suppose.


    I don't currently have a factory test system where to try this out, so
    if you have one... please test it ;-)

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    Default Re: 13.1 >> 13.2

    The version of enlightenment and its packaging will also be improved to be more stable with more packages.
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