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    Default I have a 'special' problem

    Hello, SUSE-Community.
    As you can see, I do have a 'special' problem! What do I mean with that?

    Let me explain:
    After installing openSUSE through a DVD, I wanted to install my W-LAN USB Adapter so I am able to connect to the Internet(obviously). The W-LAN Adapter is Linux compatible, but I got a little problem!
    I've used Ubuntu before and only needed to run install.sh on there, but openSUSE refused to work with it.
    After a little research I found out that openSUSE does not come with the "make" command which makes the installation difficult for me as a Linux Beginner.

    Now it get's 'special' ..
    I do own 2 computers, the first being a Desktop PC of which I installed openSUSE on and the second one being a Laptop with Windows 7 which I rarely use( why should I use Windows if I have Linux? ).
    The problem is, there exists no Cable Internet/Ethernet in my House! The only connection to the Internet I can get is through the built in WLAN in the Laptop on Windows 7 or the USB W-LAN Adapter, which is impossible to install without the make command.


    So, what do I do?
    I can't install any packages through YaST or the Terminal as that requires an Internet connection.
    After a little reasearch I found that some people had similar problems but they all fixed it with an Ethernet connection.

    I hope you can help me.



    Some aditional Information that will help you(?):
    - openSUSE Version 13.1 KDE
    - W-LAN USB Adapter GUMP WD0001
    - Chipset Realtek RTL8191SU
    - The W-LAN Adabter does get detected and shows up under Wireless Network Management, but without installing the drivers, I can't connect to a network.

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    Default Re: I have a 'special' problem

    I did not read your whole story, but stopped when you told about an error message (please do post such messages and do not tell stories about them) missing make.

    When you want to build software, you need devepolment packages. Please start YaST > Software > Software management and choose the Patterns view from the View menu. Then scroll down to Development and check Basic development for installation. This will give yoou things like make, C compilers, etc.
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    Default Re: I have a 'special' problem

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    I did not read your whole story, but stopped when you told about an error message (please do post such messages and do not tell stories about them) missing make.

    When you want to build software, you need devepolment packages. Please start YaST > Software > Software management and choose the Patterns view from the View menu. Then scroll down to Development and check Basic development for installation. This will give yoou things like make, C compilers, etc.

    Are this "development packages" available from the install DVD?

    because if not, I think you should have at least skim the OP message to the end.he specifically said that

    #1. he has no access to the Internet
    #2. he has no access to the Internet because he needs "make" to compile and install the driver for some screwed up USB W-Lan dongle that does not have proper binary drivers provided with it. hence his need for "make"

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    I assume (but Inever tested and the OP can at least try it) that this is on the DVD.

    Well, you urged me to read until the end. And there the OP says that NetworkManager knows about the device. Thus I wonder what is needed. What happens when the OP simply tries to use it?
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    Default Re: I have a 'special' problem

    On Thu 24 Apr 2014 10:56:01 AM CDT, Deadhy wrote:


    Hello, SUSE-Community.
    As you can see, I do have a 'special' problem! What do I mean with that?

    Let me explain:
    After installing openSUSE through a DVD, I wanted to install my W-LAN
    USB Adapter so I am able to connect to the Internet(obviously). The
    W-LAN Adapter is Linux compatible, but I got a little problem!
    I've used Ubuntu before and only needed to run _install.sh_ on there,
    but openSUSE refused to work with it.
    After a little research I found out that openSUSE does not come with the
    "make" command which makes the installation difficult for me as a Linux
    Beginner.

    Now it get's 'special' ..
    I do own 2 computers, the first being a Desktop PC of which I installed
    openSUSE on and the second one being a Laptop with Windows 7 which I
    rarely use( why should I use Windows if I have Linux? ).
    The problem is, there exists no Cable Internet/Ethernet in my House! The
    only connection to the Internet I can get is through the built in WLAN
    in the Laptop on Windows 7 or the USB W-LAN Adapter, which is impossible
    to install without the make command.


    So, what do I do?
    I can't install -any- packages through YaST or the Terminal as that
    requires an Internet connection.
    After a little reasearch I found that some people had similar problems
    but they all fixed it with an Ethernet connection.

    I hope you can help me.



    Some aditional Information that will help you(?):
    - *openSUSE Version* 13.1 KDE
    - *W-LAN USB Adapter* GUMP WD0001
    - *Chipset* Realtek RTL8191SU
    - The W-LAN Adabter *does* get detected and *shows up* under Wireless
    Network Management, but without installing the drivers, I can't connect
    to a network.


    Hi
    Sounds like it may just be firmware your after, can you check the
    output from the dmesg command and see if your wireless device is
    after this, if so, just install the kernel-firmware package which
    should be on your install dvd.
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    Default Re: I have a 'special' problem

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    I assume (but I never tested and the OP can at least try it) that this is on the DVD.
    I never tried it either. I usually at least have the wired LAN which works most of the time just fine, there have been couple of exception to the rules on that one, but only a couple.

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    Well, you urged me to read until the end. And there the OP says that NetworkManager knows about the device. Thus I wonder what is needed. What happens when the OP simply tries to use it?
    yeah, that stomped me too.
    if manager sees the device why can it not connect?
    I usually have issues with computer seeing the device. once it is in the manager it means the driver is loaded(proper or not but some thing have been loaded and recognized as a valid device) it's all about proper config of the connection after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vl1969 View Post
    I never tried it either. I usually at least have the wired LAN which works most of the time just fine, there have been couple of exception to the rules on that one, but only a couple.


    yeah, that stomped me too.
    if manager sees the device why can it not connect?
    I usually have issues with computer seeing the device. once it is in the manager it means the driver is loaded(proper or not but some thing have been loaded and recognized as a valid device) it's all about proper config of the connection after that.
    Well, follow Malcomlewis advice.

    Oh, and next time, please make a usefull title to your thread. Some with the name of the device you have problems with or anything that describes your problem in short terms. As you title is now it is next to worthless and poeple who potentialy might be able to help you may skip it.
    Last edited by hcvv; 24-Apr-2014 at 06:00.
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    Default Re: I have a 'special' problem

    Quote Originally Posted by vl1969 View Post
    Are this "development packages" available from the install DVD?
    Yes.

    I always select "Basic Development" when installing, so I always have "make" and similar basic utilities. They install from the DVD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    Yes.

    I always select "Basic Development" when installing, so I always have "make" and similar basic utilities. They install from the DVD.
    nice to know. I haven't needed this as yet. but it's good to know that you have it if the need ever come up.

    thanks.

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    Default Re: I have a 'special' problem

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    [...] Please start YaST > Software > Software management and choose the Patterns view from the View menu. Then scroll down to Development and check Basic development for installation. This will give yoou things like make, C compilers, etc.
    Will try, thanks!


    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    Sounds like it may just be firmware your after, can you check the
    output from the dmesg command and see if your wireless device is
    after this, if so, just install the kernel-firmware package which
    should be on your install dvd. [...]
    Odd, I've installed openSUSE directly from the .iso(which I burned to a DVD) ... seems like the default installation does not install everything that's on it?
    Anyways, thank you I will try this aswell!


    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    [...] Oh, and next time, please make a usefull title to your thread. [...]
    I "spice" up everything, sorry if it's not appreciated in this Forum;
    my bad.



    I report back, as soon as I tried everything.
    Thank you in advance.

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