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    Default Multiple Reboot and Update Confusion

    Why does a fresh install continuously, on and on and on, ask for reboots during an update session ? Very confusing

    Why does YasT show both 'Add-On Products' and 'Software Management' as areas to "install or remove software products'; is this an attempt to confuse?

    ** and a general note: if windows requiring passwords are put on the screen the password box should automatically receive focus. OpenSUSE KDE fails in this respect.

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    Default Re: Multiple Reboot and Update Confusion

    Quote Originally Posted by davidvj View Post
    Why does a fresh install continuously, on and on and on, ask for reboots during an update session ? Very confusing
    It doesn't continuously ask for reboots.
    It just shows the reboot notification _before_ actually installing the updates instead of afterwards.
    That's a bug/limitation of the shipped Apper.
    Ignore that, it is fixed with an update (which unfortunately didn't quite make it into the 13.1 release).

    See: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802960

    Why does YasT show both 'Add-On Products' and 'Software Management' as areas to "install or remove software products'; is this an attempt to confuse?
    No idea. But an Add-On Product is not quite the same as standard package Management.

    ** and a general note: if windows requiring passwords are put on the screen the password box should automatically receive focus. OpenSUSE KDE fails in this respect.
    This generally works fine here, except for specific cases maybe (but I cannot think of any at the moment).

    Do you see this with _all_ such password windows or only specific ones?
    If it's the former, it may be caused by your stealing prevention settings. (KDE's Systemsettings/Configure Desktop->Window Behavior->Window Behavior)
    In the latter case you could create a window rule for forcing the focus for those specific windows, right-click on the window's titlebar to reach those settings, or set up rules in KDE's Systemsettings/Configure Desktop->Window Behavior->Window Rules.

    Btw, if you experience problems, instead of complaining about it you could file a bug report against the specific application.
    http://bugs.kde.org/ for KDE bugs, http://bugzilla.novell.com/ (same username/password as here) for openSUSE specific bugs.

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    Default Re: Multiple Reboot and Update Confusion

    Quote Originally Posted by davidvj View Post
    Why does a fresh install continuously, on and on and on, ask for reboots during an update session ? Very confusing
    I don't recall being confused.

    If I am doing updates, then I continue updating. I don't reboot till done.

    Quote Originally Posted by davidvj View Post
    Why does YasT show both 'Add-On Products' and 'Software Management' as areas to "install or remove software products'; is this an attempt to confuse?
    I've been assuming that "Add-On Products" is for when I add a new hardware device and need to setup a driver. But I could be mistaken. I've never actually used that option.
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    YaST > Software > Online Update (or doing similar in Sofware management) only advises me to do a reboot asap when there is a kernel update. Does most often not happen for monthes. I do not understand why it asks you on and on.

    What are you exactly doing?
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    Default Re: Multiple Reboot and Update Confusion

    Just guessing but would not be surprised that the OP is rebooting when he sees the message rather then to wait until the update is complete then reboot. I believe that the update may correct this message that some naive users think should be acted upon immediately. If I recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    I believe that the update may correct this message that some naive users think should be acted upon immediately. If I recall.
    Yes. This is fixed in Apper 0.8.1. Unfortunately this didn't get accepted for the 13.1 release any more (see the bug report), but it was available as update on release day already.

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    Default Re: Multiple Reboot and Update Confusion

    This assumes that the OP is using Apper. Which he did not tell us. In fact he did tell not very much at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    This assumes that the OP is using Apper. Which he did not tell us. In fact he did tell not very much at all
    Well, he did mention KDE, and that this "issue" occurs during an update session on a fresh install.

    And I know that KDE's update applet (Apper) has this problem in its 0.8.0 version, which is shipped with openSUSE 13.1.
    But again, the update to 0.8.1 should fix this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Well, he did mention KDE, and that this "issue" occurs during an update session on a fresh install.

    And I know that KDE's update applet (Apper) has this problem in its 0.8.0 version, which is shipped with openSUSE 13.1.
    But again, the update to 0.8.1 should fix this.
    I did not suggest that you did not make the correct assumptions with the background knowledge you have.

    My comment is about the fact that the OP never mentioned what he was doing. I also use KDE, but not Apper. When he would have said he used Apper, I wouldn't even have bothered to post a useless answer and left it to Apper users to carry on with helping.

    Result:
    • time spoiled;
    • thread spoiled with off topic answers.
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