I can’t seem to figure out how to update my install or there’s no updates (not likely).
I tried using Yast but it never shows any updates except two test updates which cause Yast to close as soon as I try and run them.
I also tried sudo zypper refresh : sudo zypper up but nothing is listed. the repos seem to point to 13.2.
am I missing something?
TIA
Well, Milestone0 is still the latest 13.2 snapshot. There are no updates yet (until Milestone1 is released).
If you want to follow the development, you have to add the Factory repo instead of the 13.2 ones:
http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/suse/
Regarding YaST crashing, this is most likely this bug:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866692
Uninstall libproxy1-config-kde4 and YaST should work.
well that makes sense. I’ll review the info and see what I want to do.
I’ll have to look but I didn’t install KDE but I will look for the package when I can and remove it and see what happens.
thanks for the info.
Well, that bug applies to the Qt version of YaST only, as I said it is a conflict between Qt4 (used by libproxy1-config-kde4) and Qt5 (used by YaST). It shouldn’t matter whether you have KDE installed or not.
But if you are using YaST’s Gtk interface, I don’t know. I haven’t tried that one yet.
the only libproxy1-conf package that is installed is for gnome3 and I’m running xfce. the only thing that was qt related was Yast2-qt branding which I removed
On 2014-04-18 12:26 (GMT) LKJ composed:
> I can’t seem to figure out how to update my install or there’s no
> updates (not likely).
> I tried using Yast but it never shows any updates except two test
> updates which cause Yast to close as soon as I try and run them.
>
> I also tried sudo zypper refresh : sudo zypper up but nothing is listed.
> the repos seem to point to 13.2.
> am I missing something?
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
I had decided not to utilize the factory repos but thank you for the information.
On 2014-04-19 12:36, LKJ wrote:
>
> I had decided not to utilize the factory repos but thank you for the
> information.
But you ARE using Factory! 13.2 is factory.
Factory, that is, 13.2 (during mid year 2014), will not see a “normal”
update for many months, probably till after release, and sometimes just
a bit before release, with the release candidates (RC1 and 2). What you
will see all the time are those test update packages, which are intended
so that you test that update works - not to do real updates.
Factory is not updated via YOU, or zypper patch, not even zypper up.
Factory, that is, 13.2, has to be mandatorily updated using “zypper dup”
only.
Or, you can use a module in YaST named “Factory Update”. If it works -
I’ve never used it.
Because remember, you ARE using Factory.
Welcome to Factory testing! :-))
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
I see 
well, thank you 
That’s not quite true.
There is the Factory repo, and there are 13.2 repos (which are 13.2 Milestone0 at the moment).
Factory is updated all the time, and you should get updates even with “zypper up”, as normally the new packages would have a higher version/revision.
It is of course recommended to use “zypper dup” with Factory, but even “zypper up” should show at least most updates.
But the 13.2 repos are a snapshot of Factory at a certain point in time.
The 13.2 repos won’t change at all until the next snapshot of Factory is taken and moved there, which will be called 13.2 Milestone1 then.
so I guess my question is, is it safe to add the factory repo and update from there or are things likely to break?
well, I tried adding “http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/suse/” as a repository but it won’t let me. lol!
Well, there can be problems any time. So prepare for that.
But actually it should work just fine mostly I suppose.
What do you mean with “it won’t let me”?
Try without the suse at the end:
http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/
If YaST is crashing, try to use zypper:
“zypper ar” adds a repo, “zypper rr” removes a repo, and “zypper mr” modifies (f.e. enables/disables) a repo.
See zypper’s help for more information, f.e. “zypper help ar”.
I suppose “it won’t let me” wasn’t very informative. :shame:
removing /suse/ from the URL worked.
thanks.
hmmm, 1427 updates. this could take awhile.
I have a suspicion this is downloading all sorts of packages I don’t need.
On 2014-04-19 16:16, wolfi323 wrote:
> That’s not quite true.
>
> There is the Factory repo, and there are 13.2 repos (which are 13.2
> Milestone0 at the moment).
Well, yes.
> Factory is updated all the time, and you should get updates even with
> “zypper up”, as normally the new packages would have a higher
> version/revision.
But not with “zypper patch” or “YOU”. That is, it does not get “normal”
updates.
> It is of course recommended to use “zypper dup” with Factory, but even
> “zypper up” should show at least most updates.
But not all. It is not recommended to use “zypper up” with factory
because it can cause breakages. It is the same thing as with
“tumbleweed”, they are special and designed to be used with “zypper dup”
only.
> But the 13.2 repos are a snapshot of Factory at a certain point in
> time.
> The 13.2 repos won’t change at all until the next snapshot of Factory is
> taken and moved there, which will be called 13.2 Milestone1 then.
Correct.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2014-04-19 16:26, LKJ wrote:
> so I guess my question is, is it safe to add the factory repo and update
> from there or are things likely to break?
Factory will eventually break. It always does. That is what it is for:
testing.
It is like living on the side of a mountain volcano. Eventually, it
erupts and you may loose your house. Maybe not in years. You have to
know how to recover from disasters and go on. Even more, you are
expected to report early on them, to contribute, so that the people
living far from the vulcano live safely: thanks to you.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
I never wrote that.
> It is of course recommended to use “zypper dup” with Factory, but even
> “zypper up” should show at least most updates.
But not all. It is not recommended to use “zypper up” with factory
because it can cause breakages. It is the same thing as with
“tumbleweed”, they are special and designed to be used with “zypper dup”
only.
Right, that’s what I said.
But the point is, that even “zypper up” would show some (most) updates on Factory.
Factory is constantly updated, not once every few months as you wrote. But I guess with “updates” you meant patches in the update repo, right?
Well, that’s how Factory works.
Packages are updated all the time, since the “release” of 13.2 Milestone0, 1427 packages (maybe more) have been changed.
I have a suspicion this is downloading all sorts of packages I don’t need.
“zypper dup” will only update packages you already had installed.
But of course the number of installed packages could change slightly because packages might be split, or get new dependencies/recommendations.
maybe I should move away from the volcano. lol!
okay thanks. zypper dup is what I used so I suppose it’s just that many packages. I’m glad I have a 75Mbps connection.