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    Default LibreOffice in 13.1 and 13.2

    I gather from various threads that there isn't a plan
    to go beyond LO 4.1.n in openSuse 13.1

    If that's the case does anyone know what the plan is ?
    13.1 suppose to be around for a long time. 4.1.6 is the
    last release of this series and it goes EOL in May this
    year which is only just around the corner now.

    13.2 M0 has a flavor of 4.2 ( I cant remember which )
    Factory has 4.2.3 but if the idea is to release 13.2 in
    November or there about the 4.2. series goes EOL in
    November as well.

    The series that will be current around November is 4.3(.3)
    which isn't even a twinkle in the developers eye yet ;-)

    I'm just puzzled as to how it will work. 4.2.3 has some really nice
    fixes which I would love for 13.1 but it seems at the moment
    that openSUSE is always miles behind. Whilst the absolute latest
    isn't always a good thing, it could be argued that we are 5 or 6
    releases behind LO at the moment.

    Best wishes

    M

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    Default Re: LibreOffice in 13.1 and 13.2

    Your observations are correct. Normaly an openSUSE release is fixed. During it's lifetime (nor thereafter) no new versions of software are introduced. Only security patches ans some others dubbed as "recommended" are offered (through the Update repos). These might be retrofitted ones from newer releases when needed (specialy security ones). OpenSUSE goes for stability here.

    Individual users can however often use newer versions of software, specialy if they are offered on so called "Factory" or other repos on the Open Build Service. This software must then most likely be build for the appropriate openSUSE version. But that is where the OBS is for.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: LibreOffice in 13.1 and 13.2

    on opensuse13.1, kde12.4,
    libreoffice, Version: 4.2
    is in use on PC's and laptops
    without any noticeable regression,

    source is http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/

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    Default Re: LibreOffice in 13.1 and 13.2

    Quote Originally Posted by keellambert View Post
    on opensuse13.1, kde12.4,
    libreoffice, Version: 4.2
    is in use on PC's and laptops
    without any noticeable regression,

    source is http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/
    LO 4.2 is also available on OBS:
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...fice:/Factory/

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    Default Re: LibreOffice in 13.1 and 13.2

    I have tested suggestions and it still reported 4,15x. I mean how hard can it be (expression stolen from Top Gear UK)?

    -Do I need the update?

    -Is it essential for opensuse 13.1 users?

    Etc..

    What I do know that is was no problem to update in Win8.1 to 4.2.3.3 of
    Libreoffice. Including fix for for Heartbleed. A point of clicks in a WM.

    Regards
    I'm shameless like others in the forum -was I to any help or made sense? If yes: click the on the star below to the left. Written whit a ;-) in my eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonte1 View Post
    I have tested suggestions and it still reported 4,15x. I mean how hard can it be (expression stolen from Top Gear UK)?
    Again, you need to add a repo and install version 4.2 from there.
    For openSUSE 13.1 you will only get the 4.1.x bugfix releases as official updates. (not sure if there still will be any, though)

    -Do I need the update?
    Well, only you yourself can decide whether you _need_ the update.

    -Is it essential for opensuse 13.1 users?
    No, unless they want/need the additional features in 4.2.
    I don't need it.

    What I do know that is was no problem to update in Win8.1 to 4.2.3.3 of
    Libreoffice. Including fix for for Heartbleed. A point of clicks in a WM.
    You don't need a fix for Heartbleed, that was a bug in openssh.
    On openSUSE, LO uses the system's libopenssh, so there's no need to update LibreOffice.

    And I suppose it's even easier to install the official updates on openSUSE.
    But it is openSUSE's policy to _not_ release new feature releases as official updates, as has been said already.
    You only get bug fix and security updates without additional repos.

    OTOH, it's not exactly difficult to add the LibreOffice:Factory repo and install 4.2, just use the 1-click install link here:
    http://software.opensuse.org/downloa...ge=libreoffice
    (whenever YaST asks about a dependency conflict, select "Install xxx (with Vendor change)")

    You will then get automatically all 4.2.x updates as well.
    Last edited by wolfi323; 28-Apr-2014 at 08:08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Again, you need to add a repo and install version 4.2 from there.
    For openSUSE 13.1 you will only get the 4.1.x bugfix releases as official updates. (not sure if there still will be any, though)


    Well, only you yourself can decide whether you _need_ the update.


    No, unless they want/need the additional features in 4.2.
    I don't need it.


    You don't need a fix for Heartbleed, that was a bug in openssh.
    On openSUSE, LO uses the system's libopenssh, so there's no need to update LibreOffice.

    And I suppose it's even easier to install the official updates on openSUSE.
    But it is openSUSE's policy to _not_ release new feature releases as official updates, as has been said already.
    You only get bug fix and security updates without additional repos.

    OTOH, it's not exactly difficult to add the LibreOffice:Factory repo and install 4.2, just use the 1-click install link here:
    http://software.opensuse.org/downloa...ge=libreoffice
    (whenever YaST asks about a dependency conflict, select "Install xxx (with Vendor change)")

    You will then get automatically all 4.2.x updates as well.
    Hello wolfi!

    I maybe know a little bit more then the average user. In Linux/opensuse.

    Thanks for the link /Factory/openSUSE and one-click-install. I haven’t try It yet. I don’t mind to try even on my daily PC.

    Still it is something.. You know. I know! What about the rest? O yes I can make my own decisions. Informed ones. No I'm not whining. Just asks questions.

    Regards
    I'm shameless like others in the forum -was I to any help or made sense? If yes: click the on the star below to the left. Written whit a ;-) in my eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonte1 View Post
    Still it is something.. You know. I know! What about the rest? O yes I can make my own decisions. Informed ones. No I'm not whining. Just asks questions.
    And how would a Windows user know how to install LibreOffice in the first place?

    By going to their homepage, downloading it and follow the instructions.
    And you can do the same for Linux.
    But of course it's better/easier to use the repo.

    And as I said already, most users won't need the update to 4.2 anyway.
    If there are bugs found and fixed in 4.1.x, openSUSE can/will of course still release an official update for 13.1.

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    Default Re: LibreOffice in 13.1 and 13.2

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    And how would a Windows user know how to install LibreOffice in the first place?

    By going to their homepage, downloading it and follow the instructions.
    And you can do the same for Linux.
    But of course it's better/easier to use the repo.

    And as I said already, most users won't need the update to 4.2 anyway.
    If there are bugs found and fixed in 4.1.x, openSUSE can/will of course still release an official update for 13.1.
    Hello wolfie!
    "And how would a Windows user know how to install LibreOffice in the first place?" Well in my hometown and a lot of others regional towns using it in ground school (7-16 years old) on Win7.

    Please understand me.. I'm not after to kick down. I'm simply asking from a wider view.

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonte1 View Post
    Hello wolfie!
    "And how would a Windows user know how to install LibreOffice in the first place?" Well in my hometown and a lot of others regional towns using it in ground school (7-16 years old) on Win7.
    OK, but you have to install it first (especially on Windows) to get those easy updates. That's my point.

    On openSUSE it comes pre-installed.

    Please understand me.. I'm not after to kick down. I'm simply asking from a wider view.
    I'm not sure I really understand you.
    LibreOffice 4.1 is shipped and pre-installed on openSUSE 13.1. You get security and bugfix updates automatically.
    So what's your problem?

    Again, the official openSUSE policy is to _not_ automatically offer new feature releases of installed software. You only get bug and security fixes via the official update channel.
    This is done to keep the system stable.
    And this is done that way since I started using SUSE 11 years ago.

    But there is a lot of additional software and newer versions of included software available on OBS for people that want/need it.
    And those are not hard to install or find either.

    There's even an online software search available:
    http://software.opensuse.org/search

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