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    Default To many distros?

    I was reading a article by Jim Lynch on http://eyeonlinux.com. The same author seems to run http://desktoplinuxreviews.com as well. What ever. I think that the contends is moor interesting.

    Were do I stand myself? I have Stuck at SuSE/Opensuse sinns 2001. When I went to work with computers in late 1989 it was Novell that ruled. As descrived in the first article as a method I try cure my quriosity sinns a coupple of years trow VirtuaBox. I have a "fat" server in the basement.

    What does other people do when they think that the grass i greener on the other side of the fence/road? Reinstall? Virtualbox? Dreaming of missed opportunity with a tear in their eye?

    For my self I'm satisfied whit my setup. I does quite offen work with RHEL's rpm-files on Opensuse as well so I don’t longing for debian based distro.

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    Default Re: To many distros?

    Too many distros? No. Choice is good. You don't have to try them all.

    I started with slackware, probably somewhere around 1995. I tried red hat, but preferred slackware at that time.

    Then I ran solaris-x86 for a while, mostly because I was managing some solaris-sparc systems. In the meantime, I occasionally experimented with slackware, ubuntu and suse.

    When I went back to linux, it was opensuse. That was around 2005, and it was really "suse" at that time. I've stayed with opensuse ever since, though I have experimented with Arch, fedora and Mint. I also experimented briefly with gentoo, but I decided that was not for me.

    In any case, there's nothing wrong with trying out a few distros.
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    So Ubuntu had thosen another way and whining of course to blame on someone else.

    I was in South Africa 2009-2010 (Cape Town) several times and no one now Ubuntu? I was arranging some mobile broadband before i arrive there. Even recommended local ISP's says.. Linux? I didn’t worry and I fix it by a USBstick and some thinking on my laptop. But I was surprised. Ubuntu may be large outside South African Republic. There where virtually not exist in Cape T.

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    Too many distros? No, given the world has a massive population of potential users. Consider how many small businesses start up and many of those fail. It's the same with distros. It just makes it more challenging for those wanting to choose their first one, rather like today's general online shopping experience for commercial products. Get down to a short list asap, then test them out.

    The referenced article is really aimed at distro hoppers. To me those are users who regularly change distro, and the time spent on each one will depend on how useful and reliable it is. If it breaks, no problem there is always another to hop along to - a kind of "distro tourism". Nothing wrong with that, if you like new toys, have the time, and want to be like Peter Pan when you grow up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consused View Post
    Too many distros? No, given the world has a massive population of potential users. Consider how many small businesses start up and many of those fail. It's the same with distros. It just makes it more challenging for those wanting to choose their first one, rather like today's general online shopping experience for commercial products. Get down to a short list asap, then test them out.

    The referenced article is really aimed at distro hoppers. To me those are users who regularly change distro, and the time spent on each one will depend on how useful and reliable it is. If it breaks, no problem there is always another to hop along to - a kind of "distro tourism". Nothing wrong with that, if you like new toys, have the time, and want to be like Peter Pan when you grow up.
    Mr Confused. (please read this whith a smile. 2xsmiles), should i read something from a person that travel on the wrong side of the road? Measure in inch and miles? Close Pubs at unhealthy times. Well let me tell that people almost everywere dont agree whit that.

    Oh yes Mr. Confused. I agree on the reference article. Your right. At least your politicians made a comment about to use open sorce


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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    Too many distros? No. Choice is good. You don't have to try them all.
    Agreed, in that sense.

    However, when it comes to non-Linux users who are entertaining the idea of "trying this Linux thing out", the bewildering deluge of distro choices is overwhelming and can delay their attempt for months or even years ... or even just cause them to drop the idea altogether.

    Not certain what the solution to that would be, though.

    ... other than, when I am aware of someone wanting to try things out, I get them to try openSUSE while I offer encouragement and some coaching. I think openSUSE is the best All-Around/Over-All style of distro, while the others are more specialized.
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    I don't think there are too many distros, but i do think there are too many distrolets. Though they can be a great exercise for youngsters to learn the hang of things, and then help out a larger project, who knows, maybe they make a career out of it. The current 'big' choices are actually great, as they all represent different ideas and demographics.
    For instance - i like openSUSE especially for the reason it, for me, hits the sweet spot. Even though i am a leftist, i'm not all against private companies, or profits for that matter, but that's another subject. But, it's good to see SUSE on it's legs, doing good, knowing openSUSE will get enough of financial backing to perform well. I like then the fact openSUSE is a separate self-governing community. Even though a testbed, nothing wrong with that, because, as opposed with Fedora, i get a more stable, but yet recent enough distribution, to suit my office/multimedia needs. And, to top it off, it really seems professional. Everything, from the installer onwards seems serious. Than, next, the community is great, the forum, irc, i'm a computer noob, so when i was using Debian, i got flacked all the time, here, that's not the case (but it does seem there are a lot less trolls present, tbh). And then, last but not least, when Ubuntu fanboys say - why are you bothered, suse and redhat are doing the same thing, it's not quite true. One of the things i like about openSUSE is it's collaborative nature, be it OBS, a lot of upstream work, and even kernel contribution (ok, SUSE). And that's very important, because even though SUSE has a commercial agenda, it has a niche business, and, because their interest is delivering the best product possible, they invest time and money into the whole ecosystem, so they can get out of that ecosystem as much as possible. Ubuntu simply does not do that. There were a number of articles how more users does not mean a more quality base, as people who i introduced to linux and Ubuntu, don't even know (mostly) how to file a bug report. And that would be more than enough contribution on their side. But, let me not generalize. Along with the NIH syndrome, making everything they 'invent' difficult to port (as i read complaints), and that's the problem, what they do, is seel the feelgood atmosphere, but with pursuing their goals are disrupting the very community and ecosystem they built their product on. And it's not a coincidence they waited for 6-7 years before 'deciding to lead'. And them selecting the project least capable of defending itself in the corporate world, since it has no ties to it. I'd like to see them try the same with Fedora or openSUSE. Anyway, opposed to what they say, they do not give a **** about opensource, it's community or ecosystem. They have a vision. And they will poison the well if they see it fit in the long run. But right now, they still rely too much on community.
    Point is, Mark could sell KDE (probably even easier than gnome or Unity), build on it, whateva, but his wishes are not the deciding factor. And yes, it's not FUD, because as someone mentioned, Mint is changing things to their liking also, and noone is protesting. With a reason. Everything else is Canonical's marketing/media spin, and nothing else. Everytime i see a reconciling blog post from Jono or Mark, it makes me want to barf.
    Point is, the Canonical philosophy is very postmodern in nature. The lines are blurred, and you actually won't know what you're up against, while with MS and Apple, you're definitely certain. They make a move, and it points in one direction, and they just make a statement - no, it's not that, it's this. And despite their previous actions, and timeline of their actions, they expect you to trust them. But anyway, the point is, Canonical and Ubuntu can not be trusted. And that's the only point. And no, the technical aspect can not be the only point, as the whole opensource/FOSS is very much philosophical. And so it should be. And how come still users trust Mint, Debian, and other projects? Because there, the leaders give back/respect their community. And are looking to see it thrive. Here, Mark wants to alter the community to suit his needs, translated - volunteer labor for his profit, and his profit solely. Then they gain infrastructure and base, close it off, and we have Apple.
    Anyway, i'm a noob, using Ubuntu would be easiest choice for me, but i simply don't trust the project anymore. At openSUSE, i feel the relations SUSE-openSUSE-rest of community are much more distinct, clearly defined, and obeyed. And with that, i feel SUSE and openSUSE are showing me respect. And subsequently, I believe in the product, i would recommend it to anyone, and since i don't know how to to anything else, i try to post pics and videos on forums, participate in discussions, look to join the news team to help out as much as i can, but first and foremost, i file bugs i encounter while normally using my laptop. And once again, the project has my trust, and that's the basics of everything. But, i guess you have to be an adult for that phase.

    Hope i wasn't too long. Geekos, regards, and remember - have a lot of fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonte1 View Post
    Mr Confused. (please read this whith a smile. 2xsmiles), should i read something from a person that travel on the wrong side of the road? Measure in inch and miles? Close Pubs at unhealthy times. Well let me tell that people almost everywere dont agree whit that.
    2x. Definitely not taken seriously. When choice is unavailable - we all travel on the legal side of the road. I travelled for several years on the right side, but not here where the left side is the right side and the right side is the wrong side. Any side is easier with the right-sided vehicle. So you can "read something" from one who used both sides of the argument.

    Nowadays we often use the metric system of measurement here, but not on our roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consused View Post
    2x. Definitely not taken seriously. When choice is unavailable - we all travel on the legal side of the road. I travelled for several years on the right side, but not here where the left side is the right side and the right side is the wrong side. Any side is easier with the right-sided vehicle. So you can "read something" from one who used both sides of the argument.

    Nowadays we often use the metric system of measurement here, but not on our roads.
    Did you miss this http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ce-road-scheme
    We Swedes made the transition in 1967, I remember it very well, was doing my military service and spent a whole night moving road signs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hank_se View Post
    Did you miss this http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ce-road-scheme
    We Swedes made the transition in 1967, I remember it very well, was doing my military service and spent a whole night moving road signs.
    Haha. That would have been a good one for "The Independent" newspaper to run. Of course I missed it. If true it will give the Scots something to fund with a new independent currency.

    Was your transition made on April 1st (1967)? I didn't know that Swedes originally drove on the left. It's one way to boost car sales. Did it increase road taxes, assuming you have them?
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