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    Default Files disappearing

    Previously I posted a thread because I thought my hard drive was bad. For now I'm assuming the drive is ok. Today I deleted my mp3 folders, and restored them from DVD backups. I made the folders read-only hoping they wouldn't mistakenly be deleted. Already I found that in one sub-folder, 3 "sub-sub-folders" (different CD rips) where in the "main" folder, not in the sub-folder for a particular artist. And one "sub-sub-folder" was missing. And one song in one of the misplaced "sub-sub-folders" was missing. I checked the backup DVD again, all the files were hwere they belonged. All I can do is scratch my head. I can assume there are more files in the wrong place or missing. The last time I noticed this problem, one mp3 file had become a folder. This time I haven't used any mp3 editing programs, nothing. Just played some mp3s from playlists using Audacious. So I'm certain I didn't cause the problem.


    I tried this again:

    Code:
    smartctl 6.0 2012-10-10 r3643 [x86_64-linux-3.7.10-1.28-desktop] (SUSE RPM)
    Copyright (C) 2002-12, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
    
    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Model Family:     Seagate Barracuda Green (AF)
    Device Model:     ST2000DL003-9VT166
    Serial Number:    5YD6GFWT
    LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 0462b7d6f
    Firmware Version: CC3C
    User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
    Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
    Rotation Rate:    5900 rpm
    Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
    ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
    SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
    Local Time is:    Tue Mar 25 22:16:40 2014 EDT
    
    ==> WARNING: A firmware update for this drive may be available,
    see the following Seagate web pages:
    http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/207931en
    http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/218171en
    
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled
    
    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
    See vendor-specific Attribute list for marginal Attributes.
    
    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status:  (0x82)    Offline data collection activity
                        was completed without error.
                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
    Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                        without error or no self-test has ever 
                        been run.
    Total time to complete Offline 
    data collection:         (  623) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities:              (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                        command.
                        Offline surface scan supported.
                        Self-test supported.
                        Conveyance Self-test supported.
                        Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                        power-saving mode.
                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                        General Purpose Logging supported.
    Short self-test routine 
    recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time:      ( 348) minutes.
    Conveyance self-test routine
    recommended polling time:      (   2) minutes.
    SCT capabilities:            (0x30b7)    SCT Status supported.
                        SCT Feature Control supported.
                        SCT Data Table supported.
    
    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
      1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   110   099   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       27818600
      3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   092   092   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   099   099   020    Old_age   Always       -       1035
      5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   039   030   030    Pre-fail  Always   In_the_past 23798461380823
      9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   091   091   000    Old_age   Always       -       8199
     10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
     12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   099   099   020    Old_age   Always       -       1039
    183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age   Always       -       0
    187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   097   000    Old_age   Always       -       4295032959
    189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   069   061   045    Old_age   Always       -       31 (Min/Max 19/32)
    191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       24
    193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1038
    194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   031   040   000    Old_age   Always       -       31 (0 16 0 0 0)
    195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   028   013   000    Old_age   Always       -       27818600
    197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       92071213932606
    241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       2300893613
    242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       1989630910
    
    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    No Errors Logged
    
    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
    # 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       356         -
    # 2  Short offline       Aborted by host               90%       356         -
    # 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       356         -
    
    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
     SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
        1        0        0  Not_testing
        2        0        0  Not_testing
        3        0        0  Not_testing
        4        0        0  Not_testing
        5        0        0  Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
      After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
    In a previous thread it was suggested there was no problem with the drive, probably a filesystem problem (if I remember correctly). I have these files in a data partition I added during installation of openSuse 12.3. After install, this was mounted to "/data" just like I set it up for, and had root permissions. I used the superuser version of Dolphin to get the properties of /data, and set the permissions to "users", and allowed read and write for all the contents. Should I have done that some other way? If I decide to try this without this partition, and want to delete the partition, and use the left over space for my "home" partiton, is there a way to do that? Maybe GParted Live CD can do that?

    I've never seen this happen before I tried a separate data partiton, so these are all just guesses. I have no clue what could cause this. Unless the drive really is bad... any ideas?
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    Default Re: Files disappearing

    I just restored one of my mp3 backup DVDs to my "home" partition, and all the files are there. In my "data" partition, all but 4 or 5 of the subfolders are missing, as are all of the .m3u playlists! Weird! I'll check it gain tomorrow, see if they're still there. So now I'm suspecting my "data" partition. It should work, right? Maybe I set it up incorrectly? Or a bad drive? I'm stumped..... using ext4, by the way, if that's important.
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    Default Re: Files disappearing

    Quote Originally Posted by HighBloodSugar View Post
    So now I'm suspecting my "data" partition.
    In all honesty, I am suspecting user error. But I don't have enough information to really be able to tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    In all honesty, I am suspecting user error. But I don't have enough information to really be able to tell.
    That's what I am suspecting, too

    Is there any particular information I could post that might help?

    If not, is it possible to delete that partition, then resize the home partition to use the left over drive space? Without wiping out "home"? I'd like to try that instead of a full re-install. The data partition is a little over 1GiB, I'd like to recover that to add to "home". I don't mind going back to the default partitoning that openSuse uses. As long as it works again. I never had user errors like this back then. I've outdone myself this time!
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    I ran:
    Code:
    mount | column -t
    And these are my partitions listed - sda4 is the one that I added during installation. Maybe this info is a clue to someone....
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    /dev/sda2   on  /                             type  ext4             (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
    /dev/sda4   on  /data                         type  ext4             (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,data=ordered)
    /dev/sda3   on  /home                         type  ext4             (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
    The complete output is this, if anyone needs it:
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    devtmpfs    on  /dev                          type  devtmpfs         (rw,relatime,size=3916508k,nr_inodes=979127,mode=755)
    tmpfs       on  /dev/shm                      type  tmpfs            (rw,relatime)
    tmpfs       on  /run                          type  tmpfs            (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755)
    devpts      on  /dev/pts                      type  devpts           (rw,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
    /dev/sda2   on  /                             type  ext4             (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
    proc        on  /proc                         type  proc             (rw,relatime)
    sysfs       on  /sys                          type  sysfs            (rw,relatime)
    securityfs  on  /sys/kernel/security          type  securityfs       (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
    tmpfs       on  /sys/fs/cgroup                type  tmpfs            (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755)
    cgroup      on  /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd        type  cgroup           (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,release_agent=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-cgroups-agent,name=systemd)
    cgroup      on  /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset         type  cgroup           (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset)
    cgroup      on  /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct    type  cgroup           (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuacct,cpu)
    cgroup      on  /sys/fs/cgroup/memory         type  cgroup           (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,memory)
    cgroup      on  /sys/fs/cgroup/devices        type  cgroup           (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices)
    cgroup      on  /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer        type  cgroup           (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer)
    cgroup      on  /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls        type  cgroup           (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls)
    cgroup      on  /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio          type  cgroup           (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
    cgroup      on  /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event     type  cgroup           (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,perf_event)
    cgroup      on  /sys/fs/cgroup/hugetlb        type  cgroup           (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,hugetlb)
    systemd-1   on  /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc      type  autofs           (rw,relatime,fd=25,pgrp=1,timeout=300,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct)
    mqueue      on  /dev/mqueue                   type  mqueue           (rw,relatime)
    hugetlbfs   on  /dev/hugepages                type  hugetlbfs        (rw,relatime)
    tmpfs       on  /var/lock                     type  tmpfs            (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755)
    debugfs     on  /sys/kernel/debug             type  debugfs          (rw,relatime)
    tmpfs       on  /var/run                      type  tmpfs            (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755)
    /dev/sda4   on  /data                         type  ext4             (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,data=ordered)
    /dev/sda3   on  /home                         type  ext4             (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
    fusectl     on  /sys/fs/fuse/connections      type  fusectl          (rw,relatime)
    gvfsd-fuse  on  /run/user/1000/gvfs           type  fuse.gvfsd-fuse  (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=100)
    gvfsd-fuse  on  /var/run/user/1000/gvfs       type  fuse.gvfsd-fuse  (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=100)
    /dev/sr0    on  /run/media/user/mp3-set3      type  iso9660          (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=100,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500,uhelper=udisks2)
    /dev/sr0    on  /var/run/media/user/mp3-set3  type  iso9660          (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=100,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500)
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    Default Re: Files disappearing

    Quote Originally Posted by HighBloodSugar View Post
    Is there any particular information I could post that might help?
    I'm not sure what you are doing, and that makes it hard.

    You might see if the missing files are somewhere else on your system. Perhaps some command is automatically putting them somewhere different from what you expected.

    Quote Originally Posted by HighBloodSugar View Post
    If not, is it possible to delete that partition, then resize the home partition to use the left over drive space?
    I'm not sure. You might be able to do that booted to a "gparted" live CD. But it is risky, and could lose data. It's safer to backup, reformat, restore. You should not need to reinstall if you are only changing "/home" and "/data".

    If you can find the files elsewhere, maybe the careful use of symlinks will work to avoid having to change your partitioning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    I'm not sure what you are doing, and that makes it hard.

    You might see if the missing files are somewhere else on your system. Perhaps some command is automatically putting them somewhere different from what you expected.
    I used Dolphin to copy my mp3 backups (one directory and lots of subdirectories for each disc) from 4 DVDs to the directory "/data", the partition I added at install time. I've never seen this happen with Dolphin before, not so sure it's that. Right after that, files were missing or in the wrong place. They should have just copied to the same directories that are on the DVDs. I copied one backup DVD to my home partition, that worked fine. No lost files. That's why I suspect that I did something wrong setting up that data partition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    It's safer to backup, reformat, restore. You should not need to reinstall if you are only changing "/home" and "/data".
    What would I need to back up in "/home" besides any of my files? Would that include all those hidden files? I have all the stuff in "/data" backed up already. This sounds like it's worth a try....
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    How I have permissions set for the data partition - could these choices cause the trouble I'm having?
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    Default Re: Files disappearing

    Please spare yourself the trouble of creating those pictures. When you want to know about the properties of /data, then do
    Code:
    ls -l /data
    That is a language we all understand.

    BTW, I did not read all of the above, but like nrickert I am afraid you do something strange that we can not see (allways difficult with this way of communication, but we can not visit you and see what you are doing). When you say you have backups and restore from there, without further detail, one can make many errors. There are many, very many ways to make "backups" (which is a generic term anyway). So more detail may be needed there about backup/restore tools, etc.
    Henk van Velden

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