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    Default How do I disable automatic updates?

    openSUSE v13.1
    gnome 3.10.2

    How do I disable automatic updates?

    I have determined that, somehow, PackageKit is involved, presumably through gnome-packagekit. There are no (none, nil, nada, zilch, zero, zip) settings for controlling how often and when updates are checked, downloaded and installed.

    I tried setting yast Online_configuration_settings to monthly two days ago. I also tested a "zypper up" script yesterday. Today I was informed there are updates. Grr. This is getting like Windows.

    I would at least like to control the time-of-day that updates are checked and downloaded.

    Is this even possible?

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    Default Re: How do I disable automatic updates?

    On 2014-03-24 03:06, jimoe666 wrote:
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    > openSUSE v13.1
    > gnome 3.10.2
    >
    > How do I disable automatic updates?


    How did you enable them? Because they are not enabled by default.

    > I have determined that, somehow, PackageKit is involved, presumably
    > through gnome-packagekit. There are no (none, nil, nada, zilch, zero,
    > zip) settings for controlling how often and when updates are checked,
    > downloaded and installed.


    Package kit does check for updates, yes. But it does not download them,
    and of course does not install them, unless you click on update.

    > I tried setting yast:nline_configuration_settings to monthly two days
    > ago. I also tested a "zypper up" script yesterday. Today I was informed
    > there are updates. Grr. This is getting like Windows.
    >
    > I would at least like to control the time-of-day that updates are
    > checked and downloaded.
    >
    > Is this even possible?


    Package kit does check for updates when it wants to. You can not choose
    the time, AFAIK. I think it does soon after you login, and then
    periodically. For doing the actual update, you have to accept them.

    If you are using yast online config, then you could remove the updater
    applet (not package kit), or disable its autostart in your desktop of
    choice.

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    Default Re: How do I disable automatic updates?

    I do not use PackageKit. I use YaST and/or zypper for software management. Thus I deinstalled PackageKit (in fact I did never installed it).

    You could do so likewise and there will be no "automatic" updates.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: How do I disable automatic updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    > How do I disable automatic updates?
    How did you enable them? Because they are not enabled by default.
    I do not recall.

    If you are using yast online config, then you could remove the updater
    applet (not package kit), or disable its autostart in your desktop of
    choice.
    I can find neither of these options. There is no "updater applet" indicated in Yast->Online_Update_Configuration.

    I have disabled automatic updates in Yast->Online_Update_Configuration. Updates are still happening.

    I can find nothing in Gnome to control if/when/how often updates happen.

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    Default Re: How do I disable automatic updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    I do not use PackageKit. I use YaST and/or zypper for software management. Thus I deinstalled PackageKit (in fact I did never installed it).
    I looked into this. If I tag PackageKit for removal, a large number of Gnome utilities are also removed. (Why would gnome-tweak-tool, gnome-session, gnome-color-manager be removed, for instance?)

    It looked sufficiently scary that I decided to pass on this option.

    This still leaves me with the question: How do I turn off automatic updates?

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    Default AW: Re: How do I disable automatic updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimoe666 View Post
    I do not recall.
    Then you most likely don't get updates automatically.

    I guess what you mean is "update notifications".
    The updates only get installed when you tell the update applet to install them.

    I can find neither of these options. There is no "updater applet" indicated in Yast->Online_Update_Configuration.

    I have disabled automatic updates in Yast->Online_Update_Configuration. Updates are still happening.
    This has nothing to do with YaST.
    It's GNOME that provides an update applet.
    This applet should have settings somewhere.

    Yast->Online_Update_Configuration is something completely different. It sets up a cron job that calls "zypper up" (or "zypper patch") in regular intervals.

    I can find nothing in Gnome to control if/when/how often updates happen.
    As I don't use GNOME, I cannot tell you where to find that.
    If you don't find the settings, try running "gpk-prefs".

    But again, by default NO updates happen at all. The update applet is only CHECKING for updates and present them to you. The intervals should be configurable.
    If you don't want that at all, you could just uninstall gnome-packagekit and/or PackageKit.

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    Default Re: How do I disable automatic updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimoe666 View Post
    I looked into this. If I tag PackageKit for removal, a large number of Gnome utilities are also removed. (Why would gnome-tweak-tool, gnome-session, gnome-color-manager be removed, for instance?)
    No idea, maybe they use PackageKit to automatically install certain packages.

    You should be able to uninstall "gnome-packagekit", i.e. the actual update applet, though.

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    Default Re: [SOLVED] How do I disable automatic updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    I guess what you mean is "update notifications".
    The updates only get installed when you tell the update applet to install them.
    Correct. The updates are retrieved but not installed.

    If you don't find the settings, try running "gpk-prefs".
    Yes! That is the tweak I have been wanting. It controls if and (somewhat) when updates are checked.
    Thank you.

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    Default Re: [SOLVED] How do I disable automatic updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimoe666 View Post
    Correct. The updates are retrieved but not installed.
    No. They are not retrieved either.

    The applet just notifies you that there are updates available.
    They only get downloaded if you tell it to install them.

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    Default Re: [SOLVED] How do I disable automatic updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    No. They are not retrieved either.
    That is not my experience.

    The updates are downloaded which is the reason for my quest to disable this update app. We have only a basic DSL connection and having each computer retrieving multi-megabyte updates whenever they feel like it impacts our actual work. I can use zypper to check and perform updates at off-peak times; I cannot control the PackageKit apps this way.

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