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    Default Re: Latest updates on Opensuse 13.1 X64 makes network unreachable if you are using ifup

    Hi all,

    I have the very same issue. But in my case I only have two (2) interfaces defined and it still doesn't come up. I have to manually "ifup" them every single time.
    So as long as "cleaning up" does not exactly come down to "ONE" interface, this doesn't work (for me). The devices are configured to start at boot and yet they are offline after boot.

    I want to point out: I have the issue even though I use the new predictable interface names. Got rid of eth0 when reinstalling all fresh.

    So right now we have lots of people complaining, we identified the package causing the error... I really hope for a patch soon, because this is the most annoying bug I've ever had throughout my usage of linux.

    Regards,
    Martin

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    Default Re: Latest updates on Opensuse 13.1 X64 makes network unreachableif you are using ifup

    On 2014-03-24 23:16, smartysmart34 wrote:

    > So right now we have lots of people complaining, we identified the
    > package causing the error... I really hope for a patch soon, because
    > this is the most annoying bug I've ever had throughout my usage of
    > linux.


    I have seen worse. Large file writes to an encrypted xfs partition
    causing the kernel to crash completely. I had to reformat those
    partitions to reiserfs. The issue took years to be solved.


    In your case, as the package that causes this has been identified, you
    can simply revert to the previous version, and wait for a solution on
    the bugzilla before doing the update again.

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    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

  3. #23

    Default Re: Latest updates on Opensuse 13.1 X64 makes network unreachable if you are using ifup

    Quote Originally Posted by smartysmart34 View Post
    I have the very same issue. But in my case I only have two (2) interfaces defined and it still doesn't come up. I have to manually "ifup" them every single time.
    So as long as "cleaning up" does not exactly come down to "ONE" interface, this doesn't work (for me). The devices are configured to start at boot and yet they are offline after boot.
    Sorry, but what exactly do you mean with that?
    YaST shows 2 interfaces although you only have one? Or what?

    Then remove all and configure the one you have.

    You can try to give it a specific name ("eth0" f.e.) in "Edit"->"Hardware", then this shouldn't happen again.
    But according to your description (IIUYC) this is a completely different issue than the one the others are facing (i.e. that connections that are setup to be started "on cable connect" don't work anymore since that update).
    If you want a fix for yours, you should open a new bug report. Hopefully you can reproduce the issue then, though.
    Last edited by wolfi323; 24-Mar-2014 at 15:48.

  4. #24

    Default Re: Latest updates on Opensuse 13.1 X64 makes network unreachable if you are using ifup

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Sorry, but what exactly do you mean with that?
    YaST shows 2 interfaces although you only have one? Or what?
    No, my Mainboard has two interfaces and they are both in Yast. I shouldn't be forced to delete a hardware that actually exists.
    But the interfaces are not starting when the machine boots. I am forced to manually "ifup" after login.
    And it also started after last weeks network-patch.

    So I think this is the same issue.

  5. #25

    Default Re: Latest updates on Opensuse 13.1 X64 makes network unreachable if you are using ifup

    Can't edit my previous post so I just add this:

    To summarize:
    - I am on Suse 13.1 /64bit
    - I have the new network device names
    - I only have devices defined that actually exist
    - I am using ifup
    - With the latest sysconfig-network patch the interfaces don't come up automatically

    When I check this against the headline of this thread it sure does seem to be the very same issue.

    By the way: I manually reverted to th eold version of sysconfig-network. While this made everything work again, it gives me an update notification all the time. I locked the package in Yast to prevent updating, but I still get the annoying update notification. So while this works, it's still annoying.

    Regards,
    Martin

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    Default Re: Latest updates on Opensuse 13.1 X64 makes network unreachable if you are using ifup

    Quote Originally Posted by smartysmart34 View Post
    No, my Mainboard has two interfaces and they are both in Yast. I shouldn't be forced to delete a hardware that actually exists.
    But the interfaces are not starting when the machine boots. I am forced to manually "ifup" after login.
    And it also started after last weeks network-patch.
    Sorry, I misunderstood your problem then.

    So I think this is the same issue.
    Maybe. I don't know.
    One difference is the start-mode. I thought that this problem was restricted to connections that start "on cable-connect", because I couldn't reproduce it with "on boot". But if your problem is the same, that's clearly not true then.

    But there must be some specific setting to trigger this problem I guess. Because neither I nor Carlos are able to reproduce this.
    If it was a general problem, we should see it too, by just switching to ifup, right?
    And I did try with the new predictable interface names.

    I fear that this doesn't really make it easier to solve...
    Well, let's hope the cause is found soon.
    Last edited by wolfi323; 25-Mar-2014 at 01:46.

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    Default Re: Latest updates on Opensuse 13.1 X64 makes network unreachable if you are using ifup

    Hm. One thing to consider maybe:

    Setting sysconfig-network back to the old version fixed it for me. So the issue really seems to be in what has changed in that package.
    I'm just not smart enough to understand the changes or to debug it.

    What I observed:
    I have two machines here.
    Behaviour PRE-Patch:
    Both started up fine, my server came up pretty fast (sub 20 seconds).
    The workstation had a long delay when initializing the network interfaces (approx. additional 30 secs).
    This issue has been reported by quite a number of users in the past (in forums / buglists afair).

    Behaviour POST-Patch:
    The Server still starts up fine.
    The workstation has the issues mentioned here.
    The network hardware of the workstation is an on-board Realtek chip (RTL8111/8168B). Maybe it's a combination of the chip/driver and the changes in the patch?

    One of the people I was exchanging infos about this issues with reported, that his hardware had the same Pre-Patch delay when bringing up the interfaces.

    Regards,
    Martin

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    Default Re: Latest updates on Opensuse 13.1 X64 makes network unreachable if you are using ifup

    Quote Originally Posted by smartysmart34 View Post
    Hm. One thing to consider maybe:

    Setting sysconfig-network back to the old version fixed it for me. So the issue really seems to be in what has changed in that package.
    I'm just not smart enough to understand the changes or to debug it.
    Well, here's the only change that the last update brought:
    https://build.opensuse.org/package/v...patch?expand=1

    The only thing I can see there causing a change in behaviour is if the $INTERFACETYPE is detected wrong.
    So maybe add a "cat $INTERFACETYPE" there to see what it reports? (in /sbin/ifup, line ~300)

    And check in your /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-* files whether "INTERFACETYPE" is set there (it isn't on my system).

  9. #29

    Default Re: Latest updates on Opensuse 13.1 X64 makes network unreachable if you are using ifup

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    So maybe add a "cat $INTERFACETYPE" there to see what it reports? (in /sbin/ifup, line ~300)
    Oops, sorry.
    I meant "echo $INTERFACETYPE" of course.
    And maybe redirect it to some file, so you don't have to search the whole system log file.

  10. #30

    Default Re: Latest updates on Opensuse 13.1 X64 makes network unreachable if you are using ifup

    This gives me a "eth".

    Don't know if that helps...

    Regards,
    Martin

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