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    Default openSUSE keeps appearing in Windows boot

    Hi forum,

    I tried to install openSUSE through hard drive in Windows. Everything is ok but I still have the local boot in Window boot screen. I've tried to uninstall and reinstall it but it is still there. What can I do?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: openSUSE keeps appearing in Windows boot

    Hello and welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by ooker View Post
    I tried to install openSUSE through hard drive in Windows.
    I have no idea what you mean with that. Can you please better explain how you did the installation (never assume that others do things the same as you do)? And then please do not forget to tell what you installed. Probably openSUSE, but which version?
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: openSUSE keeps appearing in Windows boot

    Just a note since the explanation is kind of hazy.

    You do NOT ever install openSUSE from Windows. But it is very unclear what you did do.

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    Yes I do. Just mount the ISO to a FAT partition then double click the file named openSUSE13_1_LOCAL.exe. It will add a boot choice when you restart. If you choose it, you will install openSUSE, if you don't, it will automatic uninstall. I install it but it still there (in Windows boot, not Grub boot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooker View Post
    Yes I do. Just mount the ISO to a FAT partition then double click the file named openSUSE13_1_LOCAL.exe. It will add a boot choice when you restart. If you choose it, you will install openSUSE, if you don't, it will automatic uninstall. I install it but it still there (in Windows boot, not Grub boot).
    As said, that is completely wrong. You should follow the instructions at http://software.opensuse.org/131/en, specialy those in "How to Proceed" under b.
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    On 2014-03-21 10:56, hcvv wrote:
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    > ooker;2631840 Wrote:
    >> Yes I do. Just mount the ISO to a FAT partition then double click the
    >> file named openSUSE13_1_LOCAL.exe. It will add a boot choice when you
    >> restart. If you choose it, you will install openSUSE, if you don't, it
    >> will automatic uninstall. I install it but it still there (in Windows
    >> boot, not Grub boot).

    > As said, that is completely wrong. You should follow the instructions at
    > http://software.opensuse.org/131/en, specialy those in "How to Proceed"
    > under b.


    No, it is not wrong. Or not clearly so.


    The procedure to install from Windows that the OP describes has existed
    for decades, and it is valid, at least in theory. The SUSE packagers,
    and now the openSUSE packagers, put it there, so /they/ think it works.

    The files openSUSE13_1_LOCAL.exe and openSUSE13_1_NET.exe are clearly in
    the installation ISO, and there is an "autorun.inf" file: if you put the
    DVD on a windows machine, it will automatically try to run that thing.

    It is no surprise at all that newcomers try it. Don't blame them if they do.

    However, the procedure is not documented anywhere that I can find.
    Nobody seems to know anything about it. The community knows nothing
    about it. Many people don't even know of its existence. I don't know if
    anybody tries it. I don't. You don't.

    Conclusion: nobody can give newcomers assistance if they have problems
    with it. Regretfully we have to ask newcommers to forget about that
    program, and instead boot the DVD and install in the only manner known
    to us.

    :-}


    I will now post an email on the factory list requesting removal of this
    feature. Please join me there to support its removal - or that somebody
    steps up, documents it, and actively supports people trying to us it.

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    Carlos E. R.
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    So I guess I am facing the extraordinary dark secret of openSUSE right?

    However, it is intended, isn't it? More than that, it is cool, isn't it? When I installed, everything is professional and flawlessly. I had thought it was a new feature. It has impressed me, so sad when it must be gone

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    Installing from windows was added many many versions back but never did work right to my knowledge. Use the published openSUSE ways.

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    On 2014-03-21 18:26, gogalthorp wrote:
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    > Installing from windows was added many many versions back but never did
    > work right to my knowledge. Use the published openSUSE ways.


    I think I used it once in 1998 ;-)


    I think that what it does is tell the BIOS to boot just this time from
    the DVD, no more. Or rather use a BIOS interrupt call to load and boot
    something from somewhere. That's the theory, but it apparently fails in
    interesting ways. One is that, AFAIR, it is a BIOS/MsDOS call, and
    Windows interferes. That's an educated guess on my part.

    It is best to really boot from the DVD or USB stick.

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    On 2014-03-21 16:46, ooker wrote:
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    > So I guess I am facing the extraordinary dark secret of openSUSE right?
    >
    >
    > However, it is intended, isn't it? More than that, it is cool, isn't it?
    > When I installed, everything is professional and flawlessly. I had
    > thought it was a new feature. It has impressed me, so sad when it must
    > be gone


    You have a choice of media to try openSUSE, without installation, and
    see if you like it. Then you can use that same media to install it, or
    not. Or use the full DVD media instead.

    http://software.opensuse.org/131/en

    You can try the "Live Gnome" version, or the "live KDE" version, to try
    things out. Both can be installed (and you can switch to the other one
    after installation, without a reinstall).

    Or choose the 4.7 GB DVD, which allows you to install any of KDE, Gnome,
    XFCE, LXDE, and more I don't remember. One, two, all of them... your
    choice. Even plain text mode :-p


    Just download the one you like, burn it to a DVD, or a USB stick (read
    the instructions), and _boot_ it.

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    Carlos E. R.
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