Can't copy mp3 files to USB Walkman Sony NWZ-B173F

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Dear all,

I am on openSUSE 13.1, KDE. My problem is that when I plug the USB mp3 player into the laptop, I get the device notifier working, I can choose to open the mp3 USB storage with Dolphin, but when I try to copy files into the mp3 folder (on the USB), I don’t have any option for that (the Paste option is greyed out)! Can it be a permission issue, or what exactly? lsusb shows me that the USB device has been properly detected, and since I can access it, I am sure that that is the case.

I can see on Dolphin that the folder is opened under “camera” (on the navigation bar). When I try to create a new folder, it prompts me with “Creating folders is not supported with protocol camera”.

Thank you.

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When I’m plugging in my player, i get three options in my system tray: camera, open with file manager, and a third one. Have you tried opening it as a mass storage device with file manager?

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My wife has a Sony NWZ-A818 which appears to exhibit broadly similar symptoms. Note that the Sony NWZ-A818 is not recognized by openSUSE 13.1 as an ordinary mass storage device. Currently KDE’s file manager Dolphin does not handle the Sony NWZ-A818 properly but Gnome’s file manager “Files” (formerly called Nautilus) does. “Files” allows me to copy files to and from the Sony NWZ-A818 (between two windows) via copy/paste or drag and drop. It looks as if “Files” could therefore provide a simple solution for your Sony NWZ-B173F problem. Installing Gnome applications on a KDE system and vice versa is perfectly OK.

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PS you would need to search for “Nautilus” in Yast rather than “Files”.

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Thanks, dude, how dumb do you think I am, seriously? :slight_smile:

Nautilus was a way cooler name than Files, but heck…what can one do about it?

Are there any other known working methods for making it work? I hate installing Gnome utilities in KDE, it produces a mess. I so freaking like Dolphin…

I can confirm the same issues as Bloggs_J. I tried opening it with file manager, as suggested by holden87, but it still does not work!!!

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I am not aware of any but I am not a KDE expert. However if nobody else gives you a better answer, perhaps you might want to consider submitting a bug report on Bugzilla. A quick check in Bugzilla -> Free Software Projects -> KDE -> Quick Search = “Dolphin” suggested that no such bug has so far been reported. Caveat: My own experience of bug report submissions is that they can consume a lot of time and effort (I hope you don’t think I am patronising you again) so just in case you haven’t done one before be prepared for it.

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I cannot do this. It’s not a bug. Bugs are those IDIOTIC companies that do not give a **** about Open Source, that don’t care to provide drivers for Linux. Those are the real bugs!

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I use JSymphonic, a java based Sony Walkman manager.
I’m using it on a fourth generation NWA-XX series walkman which is now pretty old but I think it is still developed with new Walkmans added.

edit: also this might be of some help if you just want to drag and drop
http://askubuntu.com/questions/326019/sony-walkman-nwz-b173f-12-04-support

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Try installing and using Krusader. It’s for KDE, and just may do something Dolphin will not.
Howard

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Sorry but I can’t detect much of a reasoned argument there. How do you explain the different results between Nautilus and Dolphin?

I use Krusader regularly so I tried it early on without success. The Mountman module in Krusader appears unable find walkmans such as the Sony NWZ-A818 since walkmans apparently are not recognised as ordinary mass storage devices.

This will be my last post in this thread. I was just trying to be helpful, not to offend KDE purists. My attitude is that both Gnome and KDE have their strengths and weaknesses but that is another (controversial) story.

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I’ve similar problem with phillips player, it can be permission issue - try to copy some file in bash as root - if it’s that case create fstab entry for your player. Otherwise… I hope if via bash it should go anyway

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It would appear that on Mar 18, riderplus did say:

> Are there any other known working methods for making it work? I hate
> installing Gnome utilities in KDE, it produces a mess. I so freaking
> like Dolphin…

AND it seems that on Mar 20, roberto68 did say:

> I’ve similar problem with phillips player, it can be permission issue -
> try to copy some file in bash as root - if it’s that case create fstab
> entry for your player. Otherwise… I hope if via bash it should go
> anyway

Can’t say I know for sure, (don’t have an mp3 player to test it on),

But this could be a gui methods problem…

Once I’d reliably ID’d the player’s device {perhaps by UUID or even
/dev/disk/by-id/} then I’d go with an fstab entry to some custom
mountpoint. In which fstab entry, I’d try the user option so that
{hopefully} I wouldn’t need a root shell every time I mounted it.:

I’d open an xterm (maybe konsole) type mc to start an midnight commander
{text based} twin panel file manager, navigate one panel to the dir with the
mp3 files, the other {via “mount mountpoint”} to the mp3players filesystem.
select the desired files, and hit F5…

Or if you really detest working inside a terminal emulator, the KDE app
Krusader would likely work…

The key is getting the UUID or by-id ID of the mp3 device. I tend to use
fdisk -l to extract the current volatile device name of the device in
question. Then I can browse the /dev/disk/ subdirs with mc, looking for
it, or using a flashdrive I’ve currently got on /dev/sdcX as an example:


ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid | grep sdc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Mar 23 18:23 2c6856df-82cb-4b0f-8e42-8af866611ee5 -> ../../sdc3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Mar 23 18:23 5b15bd4d-28c4-455a-a787-f921faf78f9d -> ../../sdc2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Mar 23 18:23 70F0-67FE -> ../../sdc1

Once I’ve got a working fstab entry, It’s easy (even scriptable) for my
normal user to mount/umount the device at will…

Usually works for me…

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