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    Default Is bitterant harmfl to PC?

    I hope this is the correct subforum for this question ... I need to buy a can of dust remover or whatever it's called, but they all contain bitterant. Does anyone know if this is harmful to my computer? I've read that it leaves a residue, I don't want to kill my computer, and can't justify spending $100 or more for a compressor.
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    Default Re: Is bitterant harmfl to PC?

    Quote Originally Posted by HighBloodSugar View Post
    I hope this is the correct subforum for this question ... I need to buy a can of dust remover or whatever it's called, but they all contain bitterant. Does anyone know if this is harmful to my computer? I've read that it leaves a residue, I don't want to kill my computer, and can't justify spending $100 or more for a compressor.
    Soft hair brush, such as a squirrel hair brush, for some places.

    Old toothbrush for other places.

    Lintless cloth elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraser_Bell View Post
    Soft hair brush, such as a squirrel hair brush, for some places.

    Old toothbrush for other places.

    Lintless cloth elsewhere.

    Elbow grease, care, and attention.
    Thanks for the tip, I think I have some of those things around someplace. I guess blasting it out would have sent the dust into the air, not good for the lungs.
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    Default Re: Is bitterant harmfl to PC?

    On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 03:16:01 +0000, HighBloodSugar wrote:

    > I hope this is the correct subforum for this question ... I need to buy
    > a can of dust remover or whatever it's called, but they all contain
    > bitterant. Does anyone know if this is harmful to my computer? I've read
    > that it leaves a residue, I don't want to kill my computer, and can't
    > justify spending $100 or more for a compressor.


    I've never had a problem using compressed air - there's usually something
    liquid in the can (in my case, actually, the ones I use contain a
    bitterant as well).

    Don't invert the can and spray it and you should be fine. I also would
    avoid using it when the components are really warm - I wouldn't expect
    thermal shock to be a problem, but if you get some of the liquid vapor on
    something that's still hot from use (*really* hot, like an un-heatsinked
    CPU that's just been powered on and running), you could *possibly* crack
    the ceramic.

    Jim

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    Default Re: Is bitterant harmfl to PC?

    On 2014-03-09 04:16, HighBloodSugar wrote:
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    > I hope this is the correct subforum for this question ... I need to buy
    > a can of dust remover or whatever it's called, but they all contain
    > bitterant. Does anyone know if this is harmful to my computer? I've read
    > that it leaves a residue, I don't want to kill my computer, and can't
    > justify spending $100 or more for a compressor.


    Huh?

    I didn't know what you were talking about, so I looked on the wikipedia.
    It says:

    +++··············
    Gas dusters often use a bitterant to discourage inhalant abuse, although
    this can cause problems for legitimate users. The bitterant not only
    leaves an intolerably bitter flavor in the air, but also leaves a bitter
    residue on objects, like screens and keyboards, that may transfer to
    hands and cause problems (such as when eating).
    ··············++-

    I'm surprised. Very. I had no idea that compressed air cans could be
    used for bad things, nor that they added a "bad flavour" to it as
    deterrent. What a world we live in...

    Ugh :-/


    I don't know if a cheap compressor can be bought... even a bicycle pump
    would do. Or one of those 12 volt tire inflators and a balloon.


    As for spreading the dust on the air, I just go out to the garden or
    street. I'm allergic to dust. Even using a brush is bad for me, if the
    thing is too dusty... better to clean it completely with compressed air.
    Lasts longer. You can just cover your face with a filter.

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    Default Re: Is bitterant harmfl to PC?

    For those who are curious about bitterant, here's why it's used - found a PDF on homedepot.com that says:

    Inhalation of dispersed gas is not expected to cause negative effects. Inhalation of
    concentrated vapor may product anesthetic effects and feeling of euphoria. Prolonged
    exposure can cause rapid breathing, headache, dizziness, narcosis, and
    unconsciousness. Deliberately inhaling this product can lead to death from asphyxiation
    depending on concentration and duration of exposure.
    The CRC brand in particular is also exteremly flammable, so the computer should be "cold", and don't turn it on until it is completely vented.

    I did a bit of searching, and haven't found any that say "no bitterant", but some say they leave no residue, that was my main concern. I don't want to get any nasties in the CPU socket or any connectors. And definitely clean the computer outdoors, dust apparently isn't the only thing to be concerned about.
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    Default Re: Is bitterant harmfl to PC?

    On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 23:38:16 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > As for spreading the dust on the air, I just go out to the garden or
    > street


    I use a vacuum along with a can of compressed air. That helps a lot.

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    Default Re: Is bitterant harmfl to PC?

    On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 01:16:01 +0000, HighBloodSugar wrote:

    > The CRC brand in particular is also exteremly flammable


    I would personally avoid using one that uses a flammable propellant.

    Having seen the effects of "silly string" used over birthday chemicals
    (at the time, the propellant used in silly string was flammable - and the
    person who was the target ended up not with silly string in her hair, but
    being on the wrong end of an impromptu blowtorch - fortunately with no
    lasting damage).

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    On 2014-03-10 02:31, Jim Henderson wrote:
    > On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 23:38:16 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    >
    >> As for spreading the dust on the air, I just go out to the garden or
    >> street

    >
    > I use a vacuum along with a can of compressed air. That helps a lot.


    I've got only two hands :-)
    I also need to tilt the computer this way or the other :-)


    Yeah, I tried. I guess you are not allergic to dust. Even if mine is
    very much under control, when I use the vacuum cleaner at home I have to
    take the pills in advance.

    The dust on a computer box is concentrated, though.


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    On 2014-03-10 02:33, Jim Henderson wrote:
    > On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 01:16:01 +0000, HighBloodSugar wrote:
    >
    >> The CRC brand in particular is also exteremly flammable

    >
    > I would personally avoid using one that uses a flammable propellant.


    I once heard on the radio an interview with a manufacturer of spray cans
    of some sort, at the time when freon gas was starting to get banned. He
    said they used no freon at all, they simply used plain butane (!).

    > Having seen the effects of "silly string" used over birthday chemicals
    > (at the time, the propellant used in silly string was flammable - and the
    > person who was the target ended up not with silly string in her hair, but
    > being on the wrong end of an impromptu blowtorch - fortunately with no
    > lasting damage).


    Yeah.

    I knew some students friends wanting to get rid of some blasted
    mosquitoes. Apparently, the insecticide can they had was not good enough
    or not fast enough. So they applied a lighter to the spray...

    They had to replace some curtains.


    Fortunately only that, they told me. The type of thing you learn when
    you are young...



    Back to those compressed gas cans for cleaning dust in computers. I was
    thinking: why not plain air? Then I remembered why they used butane:
    because it is so compressed that it liquifies inside. The amount of gas
    that comes out of a liquified gas when it vaporizes is immense. The air
    you get out of a compressed air bottle is, well, very little in
    comparison (or the bottle needs a very thick and reinforced wall).

    So they have to use a gas that can be liquified at room temperatures...


    Freon was a wonderful gas for this. Inert, non poisonous, non flammable,
    jut the right vaporization temperature... till they found out about the
    ozone. So they invent other compound gases. And now they find that some
    people inhale them with nasty effects...

    Sigh.

    Choose your poison...

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