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    Default openSUSE Tumbleweed package management problem

    Running zypper dup wants to install already installed packages.

    Example:

    Code:
    toshiba-lt:~ # zypper se -is kernel-desktop
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    
    S | Name                 | Type    | Version              | Arch   |
    Repository
    --+----------------------+---------+----------------------+--------+------------------
    i | kernel-desktop       | package | 3.13.5-18.2.gbb654e2 | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop       | package | 3.13.5-18.1.gbb654e2 | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop       | package | 3.13.5-17.1.g4e9ddcc | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop       | package | 3.13.4-16.1.g6eda950 | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop       | package | 3.13.3-15.2.g7ccf96b | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop       | package | 3.13.3-15.1.g7ccf96b | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop-devel | package | 3.13.5-18.2.gbb654e2 | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop-devel | package | 3.13.5-18.1.gbb654e2 | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop-devel | package | 3.13.5-17.1.g4e9ddcc | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop-devel | package | 3.13.4-16.1.g6eda950 | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop-devel | package | 3.13.3-15.2.g7ccf96b | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    i | kernel-desktop-devel | package | 3.13.3-15.1.g7ccf96b | x86_64 |
    (System Packages)
    toshiba-lt:~ # zypper in kernel-desktop-3.13.5-18.3.gbb654e2
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Resolving package dependencies...
    
    The following NEW package is going to be installed:
    kernel-desktop-3.13.5-18.3.gbb654e2
    
    1 new package to install.
    Overall download size: 42.6 MiB. After the operation, additional 174.5
    MiB will be used.
    Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y): n
    toshiba-lt:~ #
    zypper dup wants to re-install nearly 200 already install packages.

    ran

    Code:
    zypper clean
    rpm --rebuilddb
    without errors. Does anyone have any ideas?

    Ken

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    Default Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed package management problem

    As well as that latest minor numbered update to kernel-desktop, there were a large number of kde updates today. I installed everything without checking every detail. I didn't think it a problem, although many seemed to be repeats of recent updates to 4.12.3, but I didn't check minor numbers. Life is too short .

    Doesn't OBS do that for all the dependencies of a genuinely updated package, i.e reproduce all of them?
    Leap 42.3 (ext4, KDE Plasma 5.8.7) ~ stable
    Manjaro (ext4, Xfce) ~ rolling updates
    Tumbleweed (ext4, KDE Plasma5) ~ managed updates via "Tumbleweed Snapshots" service.

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    Default Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed package management problem

    A quick scan of my zypp history suggests the build (minor) numbers increased for most of the KDE packages.
    Leap 42.3 (ext4, KDE Plasma 5.8.7) ~ stable
    Manjaro (ext4, Xfce) ~ rolling updates
    Tumbleweed (ext4, KDE Plasma5) ~ managed updates via "Tumbleweed Snapshots" service.

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    Default Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed package management problem

    On 03/08/2014 03:36 PM, consused pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > A quick scan of my zypp history suggests the build (minor) numbers
    > increased for most of the KDE packages.
    >
    >


    Seems to be an issue in the build service regarding TW. I also raised
    the issue on the factory list.

    Not a huge issue as I have unlimited download but for someone that has
    metered service it is.

    Ken

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    Default Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed package management problem

    Quote Originally Posted by kensch View Post
    Seems to be an issue in the build service regarding TW. I also raised
    the issue on the factory list.

    Not a huge issue as I have unlimited download but for someone that has
    metered service it is.
    Yeah, me too and fairly fast fibre broadband. However, if they are not genuine updates, our time is being wasted.
    Leap 42.3 (ext4, KDE Plasma 5.8.7) ~ stable
    Manjaro (ext4, Xfce) ~ rolling updates
    Tumbleweed (ext4, KDE Plasma5) ~ managed updates via "Tumbleweed Snapshots" service.

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    Default Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed package management problem

    Quote Originally Posted by kensch View Post
    On 03/08/2014 03:36 PM, consused pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > A quick scan of my zypp history suggests the build (minor) numbers
    > increased for most of the KDE packages.
    >
    >


    Seems to be an issue in the build service regarding TW. I also raised
    the issue on the factory list.
    This is not a particularly new issue as I have seen similar pieces of discussion on the Factory ML before. However we don't usually see the frequency of large KDE updates that we have recently, resulting from KDE4's total concentration on maintenance. As Greg's reply on the list indicates, this is part of the deal with Tumbleweed, and AFAICT he has to work within any limitations of OBS.

    It's helpful that you raised it there, even if it just serves to maintain awareness, and results in a summary that includes related issues e.g support for buggy multi-version kernel rebuilds, as in: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-f.../msg00074.html
    Leap 42.3 (ext4, KDE Plasma 5.8.7) ~ stable
    Manjaro (ext4, Xfce) ~ rolling updates
    Tumbleweed (ext4, KDE Plasma5) ~ managed updates via "Tumbleweed Snapshots" service.

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