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    A discrepancy between the live cd and the installed version of 13.1:

    Settings menu > Mouse and touchpad: In installed 13.1, there are two sections, General & Mouse. In the live cd 13.1, there are three: General, Mouse, and Touchpad. The touchpad section allows the disabling of the touchpad, something that I greatly desire, seeing that I am apparently a 'heavy thumbed' typer.

    Thanks for your help ...

    Jon

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    Default Re: disparity between installed and the live cd

    On 2014-03-05 02:26, reddawg315 wrote:
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    > A discrepancy between the live cd and the installed version of 13.1:


    Which live cd? There are at least two installable cds.

    In other words: are you using gnome or kde?

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    Default Re: disparity between installed and the live cd

    Quote Originally Posted by reddawg315 View Post
    A discrepancy between the live cd and the installed version of 13.1:

    Settings menu > Mouse and touchpad: In installed 13.1, there are two sections, General & Mouse. In the live cd 13.1, there are three: General, Mouse, and Touchpad. The touchpad section allows the disabling of the touchpad, something that I greatly desire, seeing that I am apparently a 'heavy thumbed' typer.

    Thanks for your help ...

    Jon
    in Gnome I have no idea but in KDE you would use synaptiks to disable the touchpad.
    You have a choice of disabling if a mouse is plugged in or disabling for a period of time on keyboard activity.

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    Sorry, the live cd is the Gnome version, as I use Gnome as my installed desktop

    Jon

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    Default Re: disparity between installed and the live cd

    Quote Originally Posted by reddawg315 View Post
    The touchpad section allows the disabling of the touchpad, something that I greatly desire, seeing that I am apparently a 'heavy thumbed' typer.
    I have not tried the Gnome live, so I am not aware of the discrepancy. You can perhaps boot the live media, go into

    Yast --> Software Manager

    and search for "touchpad". Maybe there's some software there that isn't present on your installed system. Did you install from that live media? Or did you install from the DVD image?

    I'm normally a KDE user. However, when I try Gnome on my laptop, there is an Fn key combination that I can use to disable the touchpad (the same keys as work in Windows). And Gnome remembers that it is disabled for the next login. Hmm, I might be remembering from opensuse 12.3 or earlier. You might want to give that a try.

    On KDE, I use "synaptiks" to turn off the touchpad.
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    Default Re: disparity between installed and the live cd

    On 2014-03-05 15:56, reddawg315 wrote:
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    > Sorry, the live cd is the Gnome version, as I use Gnome as my installed
    > desktop


    I have tried "gnome-control-center". There is an item named "Mouse &
    touchpad". In my lapto is has a bottom section for touch pad
    configuration, whereas on the desktop that section is missing. It is
    automatic, I don't see where to tell it that there is a touchpad available.

    However, if instead of gnome you use xfce, which is also gtk based, the
    dialog for the mouse (same laptop) has many more options; but the
    touchpad section is only present when it somewhow thinks there is a
    touchpad available.

    So, why does not your installed system think there is a touchpad?

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    Ahh - you have put your finger on the problem. The gnome-control-center is the same applet as is displayed in 'settings>mouse and touchpad'. Your laptop and the gnome live cd have three sections - my 13.1 shows only two - the bottom section dealing with the touchpad is missing. But it's not that the system/laptop don't know there is a touchpad installed - the touchpad cursor control and buttons work as intended, so the driver must be installed & functioning.
    I just noticed that there is a 'touchpad' icon in the applications screen. But when I try to invoke it, I get the following error:

    GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics

    I haven't been able to find either the xorg.conf, or XF86Config files.

    Help?

    Thanks much

    Jon

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    Default Re: disparity between installed and the live cd

    On 2014-03-06 15:46, reddawg315 wrote:

    > I just noticed that there is a 'touchpad' icon in the applications
    > screen. But when I try to invoke it, I get the following error:
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    > GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in
    > xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics


    Interesting.

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    > I haven't been able to find either the xorg.conf, or XF86Config files.


    They don't exist because the configuration is automatic.

    > Help?


    You should have a file named "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf".
    It is installed from "xf86-input-synaptics-....rpm".

    If you have it, please upload your "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" file to
    susepaste.org, and post a link here, so that we can see if it mentions
    anything about the touchpad.

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    Default Re: disparity between installed and the live cd

    Quote Originally Posted by reddawg315 View Post
    But it's not that the system/laptop don't know there is a touchpad installed - the touchpad cursor control and buttons work as intended, so the driver must be installed & functioning.
    That does not actually follow. If the touchpad driver does not recognize it, then it might be recognized as a generic PS/2 mouse, and still work. But you cannot disable it. That happened to me when my laptop was new.
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    Here is the link to my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. I do have a Logitech usb mouse attached to the laptop.

    Thanks again for your help

    http://susepaste.org/701288

    Jon

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