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    Question Is OpenSUSE upgradeable?

    Hello all, I'm a newcomer and I'm enjoying OpenSUSE 13.1 so much! I have a few questions that are disturbing me:

    1. What's going to happen when OpenSUSE 13.2 is released? Will it update automatically? Do I have to do something?

    2. What's going to happen when OpenSUSE 14 is released? Will I have to format and install the new version all from the start? Or can I upgrade it as it's done in distros like Debian, in which you do "apt-get dist-upgrade" and your package versions are upgraded but everything else is preserved?

    3. When OpenSUSE 14 is release, can I choose to not immediately upgrade? Could I stay a little longer in OpenSUSE 13?

    4. When OpenSUSE 14 is release, will OpenSUSE 13 still be supported (receiving updates)? Or will it be automatically deprecated and unsupported?


    Thanks for your attention!

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    Default Re: Is OpenSUSE upgradeable?

    Quote Originally Posted by renatov View Post
    1. What's going to happen when OpenSUSE 13.2 is released? Will it update automatically? Do I have to do something?
    Yes, you will have to do something. You can either upgrade with the install DVD, or you can change the repos to those for 13.2, and use the command:
    Code:
    zypper dup
    for a distribution upgrade.

    I guess if you go with tumbleweed, then it will auto-upgrade to 13.2 tumbleweed.

    Quote Originally Posted by renatov View Post
    2. What's going to happen when OpenSUSE 14 is released?
    It's pretty much the same method as upgrading to 13.2.

    Quote Originally Posted by renatov View Post
    3. When OpenSUSE 14 is release, can I choose to not immediately upgrade? Could I stay a little longer in OpenSUSE 13?
    Yes, of course.

    Perhaps you don't understand opensuse versions. There are no minor and major versions. There are just version. There isn't a version 13. There is 13.1, and presumably there will be 13.2 and 13.3. Then, the next one ofter that will be 14.1

    Quote Originally Posted by renatov View Post
    4. When OpenSUSE 14 is release, will OpenSUSE 13 still be supported (receiving updates)? Or will it be automatically deprecated and unsupported?
    I think the current practice is support for two versions plus two months. Perhaps someone will correct me if I have that wrong.
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    Default Re: Is OpenSUSE upgradeable?

    Hi
    Yes you can upgrade to the next release as it becomes available. It requires user action as it's not automatic. You would need to add the new repositories, disable the old ones and then zypper dup. This is also dependent on if you have additional repositories enabled not in the standard oss, non-oss and updates. There is no requirement to format etc, but as always you should ensure you have a backup (and a tested restore?) of your data before commencing an upgrade.

    Here is the Lifetime information https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime so you can see the overlap on how long you can be on the previous release, for example today openSUSE 12.3 has 203 days left....
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    Default Re: Is OpenSUSE upgradeable?

    On 2014-02-24 23:36, renatov wrote:

    > *1.* What's going to happen when OpenSUSE 13.2 is released? Will it
    > update automatically?


    No.

    > Do I have to do something?


    If you wish to upgrade, yes.

    Online upgrade
    method

    Offline upgrade
    method


    Chapter 16. Upgrading the System and System Changes


    Chapter 16. Upgrading the System and System Changes



    > *2. *What's going to happen when OpenSUSE 14 is released?


    Same thing as when 13.2 is realeased, or 13.3, or 14.1, or 14.2.
    openSUSE has no major/minor releases.


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    Default Re: Is OpenSUSE upgradeable?

    Quote Originally Posted by renatov View Post
    Hello all, I'm a newcomer and I'm enjoying OpenSUSE 13.1 so much! I have a few questions that are disturbing me:

    1. What's going to happen when OpenSUSE 13.2 is released? Will it update automatically? Do I have to do something?

    2. What's going to happen when OpenSUSE 14 is released? Will I have to format and install the new version all from the start?

    If you have a large (more than 1500 packages) installation of opensuse, then the upgrade to new version is problematic.

    While an upgrade may go smoothly, there are numerous problems that will show up later. Most of them are related to imperfect package management. Some are related to improperly handled configuration files.

    In this case, it is better to do a fresh install. Repartitioning is often not required, but a reinstall is an opportunity to change the partitioning if it was desired.

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    Default Re: Is OpenSUSE upgradeable?

    I have 2 partitions for root partition I alternate them with versions so I can always fall back. I also recommend a fresh install because config files get old ie new versions of apps may have new config requirements and an upgrade generally leave the old configs. Also it clean out all the fluff that accumulates ie app viewed once but never run again . I it does not take long to get a new version up. I do keep my home partition and thus my data. Though I don't mount the home partition on the new OS until I'm happy with it. Then I rename the home folder and mount the home partition and that then completes the transition

    If I should have some problem I will delay the fianl step until either the problems are resolved or the next version appears. Have not had any serious problems yet.

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    Default Re: Is OpenSUSE upgradeable?

    On 2014-02-25 05:06, ZStefan wrote:


    > If you have a large (more than 1500 packages) installation of opensuse,
    > then the upgrade to new version is problematic.


    Why would that be?

    I have 5078 packages installed, and I have been doing system upgrades in SuSE/openSUSE since 1998.
    No problems.

    > While an upgrade may go smoothly, there are numerous problems that will
    > show up later. Most of them are related to imperfect package management.


    Imperfect package management? Could you expand on that? Is yast package management buggy? In what way?

    > Some are related to improperly handled configuration files.


    That's expected and easy to handle.

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    Default Re: Is OpenSUSE upgradeable?

    Thanks for your replies. What's Tumbleweed exactly? Where could I read more information about it?

    Oh, another question. Do I have to do something to update my 13.1 when new updates are released or the system updates itself?

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    Default Re: Is OpenSUSE upgradeable?

    Tumbleweed is a tool for upgrading openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
    You can configure automatically updates, too: https://en.opensuse.org/Kupdateapplet

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    Default Re: Is OpenSUSE upgradeable?

    On 2014-02-25 16:26, renatov wrote:

    > Oh, another question. Do I have to do something to update my 13.1 when
    > new updates are released or the system updates itself?


    You have to apply the updates.

    You can set the system to apply them automatically, but this is not recommended. There is by default
    an applet that tells you when there are updates available, though.

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