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    Default ksnapshot, sorely missed!

    For many years, ever since I first started with opensuse and KDE, ksnapshot has been my favourite app. It just does what I want, brilliantly. Or at least it DID. Now, since 13.1/KDE4.11 it is snafu'ed up something horrible.

    In particular, it still launches nicely from the printscrn key, and the first 'select region' is fine but try 'take a new snapshot' fails, I am unable to select the region I require, with a region apparently pre-selected. Very annoying.

    Tumbleweed/KDE/Ati Radeon R9 270/AMD FX-6300/8Gb DDR3

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    For many years, ever since I first started with opensuse and KDE, ksnapshot has been my favourite app. It just does what I want, brilliantly. Or at least it DID. Now, since 13.1/KDE4.11 it is snafu'ed up something horrible.

    In particular, it still launches nicely from the printscrn key, and the first 'select region' is fine but try 'take a new snapshot' fails, I am unable to select the region I require, with a region apparently pre-selected. Very annoying.
    Works fine here. (KDE 4.12.2 now, but it worked with 4.11 as well)

    Does it work when you disable Desktop Effects? (press Shift+Alt+F2)
    Or does setting the delay time to 1 or 2 seconds help?
    There was a "bug" in that it could capture it's own semi-transparent window with desktop effects, because the window didn't disappear immediately but faded out by the effects. This got fixed recently though.

    Also, if an area is already pre-selected (that isn't the case here though), you should be able to change the selection by clicking and dragging the handles at the sides and corners of the selection.
    Last edited by wolfi323; 22-Feb-2014 at 02:37.

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    Thanks Wolfi, adding a delay does help, and yes I can use the handles. But it is just not the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    Thanks Wolfi, adding a delay does help, and yes I can use the handles. But it is just not the same
    Disabling desktop effects, in particular the "Fade" effect (or "Glide" as well if it is activated), should help as well then.
    So try to just turn off that one or two effects in Configure Desktop (KDE's systemsettings)->Desktop Effects->All Effects.

    As I said already, this has been fixed recently in KDE 4.12.2:
    https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279615

    So you might upgrade your KDE packages to the ones from the KDE:Release:412 repo:
    https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_repo...KDE_SC_4.12.29
    Last edited by wolfi323; 22-Feb-2014 at 04:46.

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    On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:46:02 GMT
    wolfi323 <wolfi323@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    > wakou;2626458 Wrote:
    > > Thanks Wolfi, adding a delay does help, and yes I can use the
    > > handles. But it is just not the same

    > Disabling desktop effects, in particular the "Fade" effect, should
    > help as well then.
    > So try to just turn off that one effect in Configure Desktop (KDE's
    > systemsettings)->Desktop Effects->All Effects.
    >
    > As I said already, this has been fixed recently in KDE 4.12.2:
    > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279615
    >
    > So you might upgrade your KDE packages to the ones from the
    > KDE:Release:412 repo:
    > http://tinyurl.com/n92x49l
    >
    >


    I've just tried this - I don't have any desktop effects on - and found
    that without the delay, even-numbered snapshots carried a blank, grey
    ghost of the ksnapshot dialogue that appeared in the saved image. I.e.,
    the first shot was OK, as were 2nd and 4th repeats but not 1st and 3rd.

    By adding a delay of one second, the ghost had time to quit the scene
    before ksnapshot pinged into action. I've never had this trouble with
    the application before but I'm not a frequent user.

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    Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
    openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit); KDE 4.12.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
    Kernel: 3.11.10; Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
    Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloddy View Post
    I've just tried this - I don't have any desktop effects on - and found
    that without the delay, even-numbered snapshots carried a blank, grey
    ghost of the ksnapshot dialogue that appeared in the saved image. I.e.,
    the first shot was OK, as were 2nd and 4th repeats but not 1st and 3rd.

    By adding a delay of one second, the ghost had time to quit the scene
    before ksnapshot pinged into action. I've never had this trouble with
    the application before but I'm not a frequent user.
    Hm, completely disabling desktop effects _should_ prevent this, as the ksnapshot window should disappear immediately then.

    I don't have that problem (also not in the form that you describe, I just tried a few times in a row) any more at all since updating to KDE 4.12.2, even with desktop effects and the fade effect enabled, so I'd say the fix apparently works.

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    On 02/22/2014 04:36 AM, wolfi323 pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > wakou;2626437 Wrote:
    >> For many years, ever since I first started with opensuse and KDE,
    >> ksnapshot has been my favourite app. It just does what I want,
    >> brilliantly. Or at least it DID. Now, since 13.1/KDE4.11 it is snafu'ed
    >> up something horrible.
    >>
    >> In particular, it still launches nicely from the printscrn key, and the
    >> first 'select region' is fine but try 'take a new snapshot' fails, I am
    >> unable to select the region I require, with a region apparently
    >> pre-selected. Very annoying.

    > Works fine here. (KDE 4.12.2 now, but it worked with 4.11 as well)
    >
    > Does it work when you disable Desktop Effects? (press Shift+Alt+F2)


    Should be (Shift+Alt+F12) not F2.

    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by kensch View Post
    On 02/22/2014 04:36 AM, wolfi323 pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > Works fine here. (KDE 4.12.2 now, but it worked with 4.11 as well)
    >
    > Does it work when you disable Desktop Effects? (press Shift+Alt+F2)


    Should be (Shift+Alt+F12) not F2.
    Correct.

    I wonder where the missing '1' went to? The editor must have eaten it...

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    @ Ken.. Sh-Alt-F2 is correct, not F12, at least on my default KDE.

    http://paste.opensuse.org/68417715

    I have tried with effects on and off, second and subsequent snapshots, the area selected is carried over from the last, and I have to move it and drag by handles. I have asked YAST to do unconditional update, here is my zypper lr

    Code:
    #  | Alias                        | Name                                                                           | Enabled | Refresh
    ---+------------------------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+---------+--------
     1 | Emulators                    | Emulators (openSUSE_13.1)                                                      | Yes     | No     
     2 | KDE_Extra                    | Additional packages maintained by the KDE team (KDE_Release_412_openSUSE_13.1) | Yes     | Yes    
     3 | KDE_Release_412              | KDE SC 4.12 Core packages (openSUSE_13.1)                                      | Yes     | No     
     4 | KDE_Unstable_Extra           | Unstable KDE Applications (KDE_Release_412_openSUSE_13.1)                      | Yes     | Yes    
     5 | download.nvidia.com-opensuse | nVidia Graphics Drivers                                                        | Yes     | Yes    
     6 | download.opensuse.org-Extra  | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Extra                                              | Yes     | Yes    
     7 | download.opensuse.org-Wine   | openSUSE BuildService - Wine CVS Builds                                        | Yes     | Yes    
     8 | download.opensuse.org-games  | openSUSE BuildService - Games                                                  | Yes     | Yes    
     9 | ftp.gwdg.de-suse             | Packman Repository                                                             | Yes     | Yes    
    10 | home:ecsos                   | home:ecsos                                                                     | Yes     | Yes    
    11 | openSUSE:13.1                | openSUSE:13.1                                                                  | Yes     | Yes    
    12 | pipe                         | pipe                                                                           | Yes     | Yes    
    13 | repo-non-oss                 | openSUSE-13.1-Non-Oss                                                          | Yes     | Yes    
    14 | repo-oss                     | openSUSE-13.1-Oss                                                              | Yes     | Yes    
    15 | repo-update                  | openSUSE-13.1-Update                                                           | Yes     | Yes    
    16 | repo-update-non-oss          | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Non-Oss                                                   | Yes     | Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    @ Ken.. Sh-Alt-F2 is correct, not F12, at least on my default KDE.
    The _default_ actually is Shift+Alt+F12, but this can be changed of course.

    I have tried with effects on and off, second and subsequent snapshots, the area selected is carried over from the last, and I have to move it and drag by handles. I have asked YAST to do unconditional update, here is my zypper lr
    But you wrote that setting the delay helps.
    So it doesn't help with the pre-selected area, right? I wouldn't expect it, as this is something completely different to that bug.

    Actually this seems to be by design. When you run ksnapshot, nothing is pre-selected. If you make a selection, this is pre-selected when you click on "New Screenshot". Or are you experiencing anything different?

    You can remove the selection by clicking the right mouse button.

    If you think that this behaviour is wrong, you should report a bug at http://bugs.kde.org/.

    Your repos look ok, although I have no idea what "pipe" could be.
    That's why you should always use "zypper lr -d" when posting your repo list.
    Last edited by wolfi323; 22-Feb-2014 at 09:47.

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