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    Default BOOTABLE USB STICK backup

    Hello.

    I have a 16Go bootable usb stick with tools for windows XP.
    This key boot as windows XP.
    This key is functioning, but I could not found anymore the files I have made to construct this bootable usb stick.

    Is there a way to make another bootable usb key ( 8 Gb ) from the first one.

    Size are different.

    Data are less than 2Gb

    Any help is welcome.
    Thanks for helping. JCD
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    Default Re: BOOTABLE USB STICK backup

    On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:56:02 +0000, jcdole wrote:

    > Hello.
    >
    > I have a 16Go bootable usb stick with tools for windows XP.
    > This key boot as windows XP.
    > This key is functioning, but I could not found anymore the files I have
    > made to construct this bootable usb stick.
    >
    > Is there a way to make another bootable usb key ( 8 Gb ) from the first
    > one.
    >
    > Size are different.
    >
    > Data are less than 2Gb
    >
    > Any help is welcome.


    I doubt anyone here is going to be able to help you make a bootable
    Windows USB stick, you might try the Microsoft forums.

    Jim



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    Default Re: BOOTABLE USB STICK backup

    On 2014-02-06 15:56, jcdole wrote:
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    > Hello.
    >
    > I have a 16Go bootable usb stick with tools for windows XP.
    > This key boot as windows XP.
    > This key is functioning, but I could not found anymore the files I have
    > made to construct this bootable usb stick.
    >
    > Is there a way to make another bootable usb key ( 8 Gb ) from the first
    > one.


    You mean you want to clone the stick.
    I you want to recreate the stick, obviously I have to answer the same as
    Jim.

    > Size are different.
    >
    > Data are less than 2Gb


    If the destination stick has at least the same number of sectors, or
    more (never less), you can use dd:

    Code:
    dd if=/dev/sdX if=/dev/sdY
    If the destination stick is smaller, you could try clonezilla. I don't
    know if it will boot, though.

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    Default Re: BOOTABLE USB STICK backup

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    If the destination stick is smaller, you could try clonezilla. I don't
    know if it will boot, though.
    Clonezilla will clone (or restore to) a partition of equal or greater size, as well, so I doubt it would work.
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    Default Re: BOOTABLE USB STICK backup

    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:56:02 +0000, jcdole wrote:

    > Hello.
    >
    > I have a 16Go bootable usb stick with tools for windows XP.
    > This key boot as windows XP.
    > This key is functioning, but I could not found anymore the files I have
    > made to construct this bootable usb stick.
    >
    > Is there a way to make another bootable usb key ( 8 Gb ) from the first
    > one.
    >
    > Size are different.
    >
    > Data are less than 2Gb
    >
    > Any help is welcome.


    I doubt anyone here is going to be able to help you make a bootable
    Windows USB stick, you might try the Microsoft forums.

    Jim



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    It is not a windows problem, and it is not a microsoft product.

    The question is about copying a bootable usb key to another usb key and make the second bootable.

    I have tried to use imagewriter but it refuse to copy the image from the key.

    This question should be the same if I had a suse 9.3 on a 16Gb bootable usb stick that I want to copy to another 8 Gb usb stick that I want to be bootable.
    Thanks for helping. JCD
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    Default Re: BOOTABLE USB STICK backup

    dd is your best shot it will do a binary copy but the target must be the same or larger size as the source!!!!

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    Default Re: BOOTABLE USB STICK backup

    On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 17:56:01 +0000, jcdole wrote:

    > It is not a windows problem, and it is not a microsoft product.


    That was not clear to me from your initial post. You said "windows
    tools" and "boot as windows XP" - so it sure sounds like you're trying to
    create a bootable Windows USB key. My apologies for not understanding
    what you were saying - it just wasn't clear to me.

    Windows XP most certainly is a Microsoft product, though. So that adds
    to the confusion about what you're asking.

    > The question is about copying a bootable usb key to another usb key and
    > make the second bootable.


    I would concur that using dd is your best option. Then use fdisk to make
    sure the partition is flagged bootable (but it should be as it'll be an
    identical copy)

    > I have tried to use imagewriter but it refuse to copy the image from the
    > key.


    Imagewriter also, as I recall, is a Windows program, hence now some
    additional confusion about what you're trying to do. It's as if you're
    asking about how to copy a bootable Windows XP USB key to another using
    Windows....?

    > This question should be the same if I had a suse 9.3 on a 16Gb bootable
    > usb stick that I want to copy to another 8 Gb usb stick that I want to
    > be bootable.


    Well, in that case, the answer is also still the same - use dd, because
    it'll do what you're trying to do. That's its purpose.

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    Default Re: BOOTABLE USB STICK backup

    On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:01:24 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:

    >> This question should be the same if I had a suse 9.3 on a 16Gb bootable
    >> usb stick that I want to copy to another 8 Gb usb stick that I want to
    >> be bootable.

    >
    > Well, in that case, the answer is also still the same - use dd, because
    > it'll do what you're trying to do. That's its purpose.


    Except that the additional detail of going to a *smaller* device escaped
    my notice as well.

    Which means that you will need to probably reconstruct the Windows
    partition on the drive the way you did the original (BartPE, perhaps?),
    because dd won't solve your problem if there is data past the end of the
    first 8 GB of space - and the partition table will be hosed anyways.
    Windows has some things that it requires IIRC regarding the placement of
    certain files on the boot partition, and just copying the files won't be
    sufficient (as it would be with a bootable Linux USB drive).

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    Default Re: BOOTABLE USB STICK backup

    On 2014-02-07 06:06, Fraser Bell wrote:
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    > robin_listas;2622550 Wrote:
    >>
    >> If the destination stick is smaller, you could try clonezilla. I don't
    >> know if it will boot, though.
    >>

    >
    > Clonezilla will clone (or restore to) a partition of equal or greater
    > size, as well, so I doubt it would work.


    It tries to emulate tools like "partition magic" or "ghost". These
    Windows tools could clone to a smaller destination if the source was not
    full. Ie, it did not clone unused sectors. You could resize the
    partition during the operation.

    I'm just guessing that clonezilla _might_ use similar tricks. I have not
    tried myself.

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    Default Re: BOOTABLE USB STICK backup

    On 2014-02-07 22:01, Jim Henderson wrote:

    > Imagewriter also, as I recall, is a Windows program,


    And Linux, too.

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