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    Default suse 13.1 - kde, grabbed partitions from my backup drive

    Hello. I have my old drive as backup drive. Suse has grabbed partitions from it. I need to have the full amount for back of windows files. It's grabbed way more than it needs from my primary. The partition changes bug comes up again(forced changes, no changes to my windows drive unless I ask for them). I still haven't had the chance to put the partition back to the way they were.

    How do shift them those partition back to the primary drive? Just delete them and reformat the drive?

    Code:
    // generated by libstorage version 2.24.8
    // linux-nsfx.(none), 2014-02-05 13:45:21
    
    digraph storage
    {
        node [shape=rectangle, style=filled, fontname="Arial"];
        edge [color="#444444"];
    
        "device:/dev/sda" [label="sda", color="#ff0000", fillcolor="#ffaaaa", tooltip="Hard Disk\n/dev/sda\n931.51 GB"];
        "device:/dev/sda1" [label="sda1", color="#cc33cc", fillcolor="#eeaaee", tooltip="Partition\n/dev/sda1\n292.96 GB"];
        "device:/dev/sda2" [label="sda2", color="#cc33cc", fillcolor="#eeaaee", tooltip="Partition\n/dev/sda2\n32.00 GB"];
        "mountpoint:/dev/sda2" [label="/usr/local", color="#008800", fillcolor="#99ee99", tooltip="Mount Point\n/dev/sda2\n32.00 GB"];
        "device:/dev/sda5" [label="sda5", color="#cc33cc", fillcolor="#eeaaee", tooltip="Partition\n/dev/sda5\n203.38 GB"];
        "device:/dev/sda6" [label="sda6", color="#cc33cc", fillcolor="#eeaaee", tooltip="Partition\n/dev/sda6\n264.75 GB"];
        "device:/dev/sdb" [label="sdb", color="#ff0000", fillcolor="#ffaaaa", tooltip="Hard Disk\n/dev/sdb\n298.09 GB"];
        "device:/dev/sdb1" [label="sdb1", color="#cc33cc", fillcolor="#eeaaee", tooltip="Partition\n/dev/sdb1\n2.01 GB"];
        "mountpoint:/dev/sdb1" [label="swap", color="#008800", fillcolor="#99ee99", tooltip="Mount Point\n/dev/sdb1\n2.01 GB"];
        "device:/dev/sdb2" [label="sdb2", color="#cc33cc", fillcolor="#eeaaee", tooltip="Partition\n/dev/sdb2\n20.00 GB"];
        "mountpoint:/dev/sdb2" [label="/", color="#008800", fillcolor="#99ee99", tooltip="Mount Point\n/dev/sdb2\n20.00 GB"];
        "device:/dev/sdb3" [label="sdb3", color="#cc33cc", fillcolor="#eeaaee", tooltip="Partition\n/dev/sdb3\n139.00 GB"];
        "mountpoint:/dev/sdb3" [label="/home", color="#008800", fillcolor="#99ee99", tooltip="Mount Point\n/dev/sdb3\n139.00 GB"];
    
        { rank=source; "device:/dev/sda" "device:/dev/sdb" };
        { rank=same; "device:/dev/sda1" "device:/dev/sda2" "device:/dev/sda5" "device:/dev/sda6" "device:/dev/sdb1" "device:/dev/sdb2" "device:/dev/sdb3" };
        { rank=sink; "mountpoint:/dev/sda2" "mountpoint:/dev/sdb1" "mountpoint:/dev/sdb2" "mountpoint:/dev/sdb3" };
    
        "device:/dev/sda" -> "device:/dev/sda1" [style=solid];
        "device:/dev/sda" -> "device:/dev/sda2" [style=solid];
        "device:/dev/sda2" -> "mountpoint:/dev/sda2" [style=dashed];
        "device:/dev/sda" -> "device:/dev/sda5" [style=solid];
        "device:/dev/sda" -> "device:/dev/sda6" [style=solid];
        "device:/dev/sdb" -> "device:/dev/sdb1" [style=solid];
        "device:/dev/sdb1" -> "mountpoint:/dev/sdb1" [style=dashed];
        "device:/dev/sdb" -> "device:/dev/sdb2" [style=solid];
        "device:/dev/sdb2" -> "mountpoint:/dev/sdb2" [style=dashed];
        "device:/dev/sdb" -> "device:/dev/sdb3" [style=solid];
        "device:/dev/sdb3" -> "mountpoint:/dev/sdb3" [style=dashed];
    }
    931 gb = primary drive.
    293 gb = backup drive


    Need help here, thanks.

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    Default Re: suse 13.1 - kde, grabbed partitions from my backup drive

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    Hello. I have my old drive as backup drive. Suse has grabbed partitions from it. I need to have the full amount for back of windows files. It's grabbed way more than it needs from my primary. The partition changes bug comes up again(forced changes, no changes to my windows drive unless I ask for them). I still haven't had the chance to put the partition back to the way they were.

    How do shift them those partition back to the primary drive? Just delete them and reformat the drive?

    931 gb = primary drive.
    293 gb = backup drive


    Need help here, thanks.
    I would rather see the output from
    Code:
    fdisk -l
    before proceeding, please. That is a letter l, not the number one, in that command.
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    Default Re: suse 13.1 - kde, grabbed partitions from my backup drive

    Hi lord_valarian !

    I have some difficulties to understand what you did.

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    Hello. I have my old drive as backup drive.
    Fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    Suse has grabbed partitions from it.
    Grabbed partitions from that 'backup' drive ??

    Was this the source drive ?

    What was the target drive / where did the backup go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    I need to have the full amount for back of windows files.
    That may be another problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    It's grabbed way more than it needs from my primary.
    This may not be a real problem if you have enough space.

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    The partition changes bug comes up again(forced changes, no changes to my windows drive unless I ask for them). I still haven't had the chance to put the partition back to the way they were.

    How do shift them those partition back to the primary drive? Just delete them and reformat the drive?
    Similarly:
    what is your source drive (i.e. in case of the 'restore' that you now seem to attempt) ?

    And what is your target drive (i.e. in the same case of the 'restore' that you now seem to attempt) ?

    Good luck
    Mike

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    Default Re: suse 13.1 - kde, grabbed partitions from my backup drive

    Code:
    >fdisk -l
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000203804160 bytes, 1953523055 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk label type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0xbb2ebb2e
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sda1              63   614389859   307194898+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda2       614389923   681493364    33551721    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
    /dev/sda3   *   681493365  1953521663   636014149+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
    /dev/sda5       681493428  1108019164   213262868+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda6      1398308864  1953521663   277606400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    
    Disk /dev/sdb: 320.1 GB, 320071851520 bytes, 625140335 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk label type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0x32783277
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdb1            2048     4208639     2103296   82  Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sdb2         4208640    46153727    20972544   83  Linux
    /dev/sdb3        46153728   337653759   145750016   83  Linux
    This should help. I need the backup as only one partition/drive.

    Later, I want to create an auto-backup on shutdown for mswin and linux.

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    Default Re: suse 13.1 - kde, grabbed partitions from my backup drive

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    Code:
    >fdisk -l
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000203804160 bytes, 1953523055 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk label type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0xbb2ebb2e
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sda1              63   614389859   307194898+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda2       614389923   681493364    33551721    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
    /dev/sda3   *   681493365  1953521663   636014149+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
    /dev/sda5       681493428  1108019164   213262868+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda6      1398308864  1953521663   277606400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    
    Disk /dev/sdb: 320.1 GB, 320071851520 bytes, 625140335 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk label type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0x32783277
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdb1            2048     4208639     2103296   82  Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sdb2         4208640    46153727    20972544   83  Linux
    /dev/sdb3        46153728   337653759   145750016   83  Linux
    This should help. I need the backup as only one partition/drive.

    Later, I want to create an auto-backup on shutdown for mswin and linux.https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...y-backup-drive
    We need more details about what you want to do. Perhaps more info on what you were trying to do, as well.

    Were you installing openSUSE? I can only guess, since you did not say.

    Do you still want to install openSUSE? I need to guess at that, as well.

    If you want to install openSUSE, where do you want it installed? I am again guessing you want it on the same drive as Windows, so the 2nd drive can be left empty for backups.

    If that is the case, you first need to make room on the Windows drive, as it appears all the space is already taken. Even though the code is not anywhere near as bloated as Windows, Linux still requires some space to be installed to.

    Guessing at that, I suggest you use Windows' Disk Manager to shrink and move the partitions on the first drive, since that will be the most dependable way of shrinking Windows' partitions without bricking the Win O/S.

    Before you do anything, please tell us exactly what you want to achieve, so we can tell you the best approach.
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    Default Re: suse 13.1 - kde, grabbed partitions from my backup drive

    Hi lord_valarian,

    you posted the output of 'fdisk -l'.
    That helps a bit.

    Do you have a problem with disk space on one of your 2 drives?

    I still don't really get your problem.

    From your first posting:

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    Hello. I have my old drive as backup drive.
    I read here, that you want to make a backup from another drive to your old drive.

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    Suse has grabbed partitions from it.
    This would mean that 'Suse has grabbed partitions from' this old drive.
    But that would be a completely new situation.

    Again the question, which one is the source drive, which one is the target drive?

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    I need to have the full amount for back of windows files. It's grabbed way more than it needs from my primary.
    This probably says that a backup of partitions - that has been made using openSUSE -
    used a lot of space on the target drive (which?), and that you would like it to use less space for that backup, right?

    If this is true, then let me make a personal remark:
    I use 3 external hard disks to backup the data of my internal hard disk.
    They're connected via USB, and this has the additional advantage that I would easily be able
    to read the data that was backed up on any other PC.

    Good luck
    Mike

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    Default Re: suse 13.1 - kde, grabbed partitions from my backup drive

    Let me clear this up.... My backup drive should have only one partition. 293 gb It has at least 3 partitions. Can't figure out what those partitions are doing there. There is no 293 gb(about) partition. How do fix the drive one only partition? What are those extra partitions doing there?




    Let ignore my other problem with opensuse install forced changes to my windows drives. For your info anyway....

    Not go through a dozen menus to undo any changes made. No changes to any partitions, unless requested. I still haven't put my window partition back to it's normal size. I left enough room for suse to install on my primary drive. Suse installer still cut up my windows drives anyway. Don't make changes without me requesting it.

    My windows drives keep being cut up by the suse installer. Don't alter windows partitions, unless requested. No menus to undo changes I never wanted.

    Is this clear now?

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    Default Re: suse 13.1 - kde, grabbed partitions from my backup drive

    Better

    The installer only will do what you tell it or let it do. My guess is that you installed the OS to that drive. If you don't want those partition remove them. But if it is a running OS you will need to boot to another OS or Live CD/DVD that does not use those partition before you can deep six them. Can't remove them while they are mounted

    I guess you could mount them if they are not already in use and see what is in them. I promise you the OS did not do that on it own you had to request it or not pay attention to default settings in the Installer.

    So solution is to remove them and maybe resize the exiting partition

    If in doubt show use fdisk -l with the drive attached

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    Default Re: suse 13.1 - kde, grabbed partitions from my backup drive

    Code:
    >fdisk -l
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000203804160 bytes, 1953523055 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk label type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0xbb2ebb2e
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sda1              63   614389859   307194898+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda2       614389923   681493364    33551721    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
    /dev/sda3   *   681493365  1953521663   636014149+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
    /dev/sda5       681493428  1108019164   213262868+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda6      1398308864  1953521663   277606400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    
    Disk /dev/sdb: 320.1 GB, 320071851520 bytes, 625140335 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk label type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0x32783277
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdb1            2048     4208639     2103296   82  Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sdb2         4208640    46153727    20972544   83  Linux
    /dev/sdb3        46153728   337653759   145750016   83  Linux
    On your first drive, you have 4 Windows partitions: sda1, sda2, sda5 & sda6

    sda5 & sda6 are both logical NTFS (Windows) partitions in an extended partition (sda3).

    You appear to have unallocated drive space in the extended partition on sda from 1108019165 to 1398308863

    The only partitions on your first drive (sda) are all Windows partitions, so that cannot be the fault of openSUSE, since it does not install any Windows partitions by default.

    On your 2nd drive (sdb) -- obviously the only one with any room for it to install to, since Windows is taking up almost all of your 1st drive -- you appear to have the 3 standard openSUSE partitions: sdb1 for swap, the other two (most probable) would be home and root (/).

    This does not quite fit with what you are telling us, so this is causing confusion.

    To proceed, we need to know:


    1. Do you want to keep openSUSE installed on the machine?
    2. If so, where? On the first drive with Windows?
    3. Do you want all of the second drive for a single backup partition? (We appear to already know the answer to that, apparently yes, one large single partition, but we need to know the answer to ALL of these questions.)


    We can not suggest anything without knowing those answers.
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    Default Re: suse 13.1 - kde, grabbed partitions from my backup drive

    Quote Originally Posted by lord_valarian View Post
    Let me clear this up.... My backup drive should have only one partition. 293 gb It has at least 3 partitions. Can't figure out what those partitions are doing there.
    These partitions on your 293 gb (/dev/sdb or the 320 GB hard disk, as is telling your 'fdisk -l')
    seem to be a result of an installation of a Linux, like openSUSE.

    On the other drive, the 1TB hard disk (or /dev/sda), there obviously is no Linux.

    Just as Fraser_Bell asked above: what do you really want to do, or get?

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