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    Default Desktop Folder/Window NOT minimizing correctly from System Tray tab

    After recently installing the newest system updates, I find that the folders/windows on the desktop no longer will minimize/maximize with just the click on the system tray tab for the corresponding item. On 13.1 KDE 32-bit with newest kernel drop installed. Anyone have a suggestion? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckenheimer View Post
    After recently installing the newest system updates, I find that the folders/windows on the desktop no longer will minimize/maximize with just the click on the system tray tab for the corresponding item.
    I guess you mean the "task manager" in the panel, right?
    The system tray is the thing on the bottom-right (left of the clock) where some programs put icons (like KMix f.e.) and which contains the device notifier f.e.

    This works fine here.

    Do you have the same problem with a new user?
    Can you minimize/maximize windows with the buttons in the windows' titlebar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    I guess you mean the "task manager" in the panel, right?
    The system tray is the thing on the bottom-right (left of the clock) where some programs put icons (like KMix f.e.) and which contains the device notifier f.e.

    This works fine here.

    Do you have the same problem with a new user?
    Can you minimize/maximize windows with the buttons in the windows' titlebar?
    Gotta get the proper lingo down. Yes, the task manager.

    I have created a new "test" user with password but for some reason I log off and cannot log back in with any of the 3 users, Charles - Root - Test. The login fails each time even though I now have made the logins password-less. I cannot figure this out and have to reboot from the login screen and it logs in automatically with the Charles user properly then.

    And, yes, I can minimize/maximize windows with the buttons in the titlebar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckenheimer View Post
    I have created a new "test" user with password but for some reason I log off and cannot log back in with any of the 3 users, Charles - Root - Test. The login fails each time even though I now have made the logins password-less. I cannot figure this out and have to reboot from the login screen and it logs in automatically with the Charles user properly then.
    Hm, that's strange.

    Sure you entered the correct passwords? No CAPS-Lock active or similar?

    What happens when you "cannot log back"? Is there any error message?

    How did you make the logins passwordless?

    And, yes, I can minimize/maximize windows with the buttons in the titlebar.
    OK, so it's no general problem with minimizing/maximizing windows.

    If you create a new default panel, does it work from there? (right-click on the desktop and choose "Add panel"->"Default Panel")

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Hm, that's strange.

    Sure you entered the correct passwords? No CAPS-Lock active or similar?

    What happens when you "cannot log back"? Is there any error message?

    How did you make the logins passwordless?


    OK, so it's no general problem with minimizing/maximizing windows.

    If you create a new default panel, does it work from there? (right-click on the desktop and choose "Add panel"->"Default Panel")
    No CAPS/NUM-lock. "Login failed." error message. Expert Options in the User/Group Management dialog where users are listed/created. Bottom right above the OK button.

    Yes, strange. I'm going to try to automatically login with the Test user now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckenheimer View Post
    No CAPS/NUM-lock. "Login failed." error message. Expert Options in the User/Group Management dialog where users are listed/created. Bottom right above the OK button.

    Yes, strange. I'm going to try to automatically login with the Test user now.
    well, I've found that apparently the passwordless setting is sticking, so the logons are without passwords regardless of whether I have the checkbox ticked or not. Weird.

    Something is going on with my Charles user account being that the maximize/minimize works correctly with the Test and Root accounts from the Task Manager. Again, weird.

    Maybe we can go into a discussion about some of the Desktop Effects settings that I've been adjusting. Maybe that has something to do with the situation I am experiencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckenheimer View Post
    well, I've found that apparently the passwordless setting is sticking, so the logons are without passwords regardless of whether I have the checkbox ticked or not. Weird.
    I never played with passwordless logins, but AFAIK this should be saved in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager.

    Please check that this contains a line exactly like this:
    Code:
    DISPLAYMANAGER_PASSWORD_LESS_LOGIN="no"
    (and only exactly _one_ line that sets DISPLAYMANAGER_PASSWORD_LESS_LOGIN)

    Something is going on with my Charles user account being that the maximize/minimize works correctly with the Test and Root accounts from the Task Manager. Again, weird.

    Maybe we can go into a discussion about some of the Desktop Effects settings that I've been adjusting. Maybe that has something to do with the situation I am experiencing.
    Let's first check if it is caused by a corrupted plasma/task manager configuration.

    Quit plasma, remove its config file, and start it again:
    Code:
    kquitapp plasma-desktop && mv ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc.bak && plasma-desktop
    Does it work then?

    Of course all your plasma customisation is gone then.
    You can restore everything back to the state before with:
    Code:
    kquitapp plasma-desktop && mv ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc.bak ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc && plasma-desktop

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    I never played with passwordless logins, but AFAIK this should be saved in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager.

    Please check that this contains a line exactly like this:
    Code:
    DISPLAYMANAGER_PASSWORD_LESS_LOGIN="no"
    (and only exactly _one_ line that sets DISPLAYMANAGER_PASSWORD_LESS_LOGIN)


    Let's first check if it is caused by a corrupted plasma/task manager configuration.

    Quit plasma, remove its config file, and start it again:
    Code:
    kquitapp plasma-desktop && mv ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc.bak && plasma-desktop
    Does it work then?

    Of course all your plasma customisation is gone then.
    You can restore everything back to the state before with:
    Code:
    kquitapp plasma-desktop && mv ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc.bak ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc && plasma-desktop
    OK, the password issue isn't resolved but the settings are as you suggested they need to be but still the logins are passwordless even though set otherwise.

    Corrupted plasma/task manager configuration is the issue now. Once I removed the config file, things worked properly. Restore then the problem exists again. Guess I'll be starting over with new configurations, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckenheimer View Post
    OK, the password issue isn't resolved but the settings are as you suggested they need to be but still the logins are passwordless even though set otherwise.
    Maybe they are set in "Configure Desktop"->"Login Screen"->"Convenience"?

    Corrupted plasma/task manager configuration is the issue now. Once I removed the config file, things worked properly. Restore then the problem exists again. Guess I'll be starting over with new configurations, huh?
    If you haven't changed much it might be the easiest.

    But you could also try to just remove and readd the task manager (click on the toolbox icon on the right edge of the panel, then right-click on the task manager and choose "Remove Task Manager". You can add it again by clicking on the toolbox icon again and selecting "Add Widgets", as long as the toolbox is open, you can drag it around in the panel to position it where you want)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Maybe they are set in "Configure Desktop"->"Login Screen"->"Convenience"?


    If you haven't changed much it might be the easiest.

    But you could also try to just remove and readd the task manager (click on the toolbox icon on the right edge of the panel, then right-click on the task manager and choose "Remove Task Manager". You can add it again by clicking on the toolbox icon again and selecting "Add Widgets", as long as the toolbox is open, you can drag it around in the panel to position it where you want)
    No, the settings were the same in Configure Desktop. I set preselected user as Charles but left passwordless login unticked. Will see if having visited this panel whether or not it made any difference.

    Well, I've succeeded in losing my clock, network management icon and the system tray all in one fell swoop. What a lucky day I'm having over here. How do I get these back?

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