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    Default Where did qpopper go under 13.1?

    From what I can see, qpopper was dropped from 13.1. It seems to have been reported in Bugzilla [Bug 850801] but I can't find any progress on that. Unfortunately, for the time being, qpopper is literally mission critical to me. Without it, I have to go back to 12.1, where it works. I tried using the 12.1 repositories. I found qpopper but installing it breaks a lot (280+) of stuff. I found a package on qpopper.org which, if it comes to that, I'll try compiling. But rather than re-invent the wheel, I want to know if qpopper, or its functional equivalent, is available under 13.1.
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    Default Re: Where did qpopper go under 13.1?

    On 2014-01-29 05:56, RBEmerson wrote:
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    > From what I can see, qpopper was dropped from 13.1. It seems to have
    > been reported in Bugzilla [Bug 850801] but I can't find any progress on
    > that.


    Why did you not ask again in Bugzilla? More people asking, more chances
    of responses.

    You could ask on the factory mail list. There is a factory package, a
    12.3 package, on the main repo, but not for 13.1.

    Code:
    http://software.opensuse.org/package/qpopper

    > Unfortunately, for the time being, qpopper is literally mission
    > critical to me. Without it, I have to go back to 12.1, where it works. I
    > tried using the 12.1 repositories. I found qpopper but installing it
    > breaks a lot (280+) of stuff. I found a package on qpopper.org which, if
    > it comes to that, I'll try compiling. But rather than re-invent the
    > wheel, I want to know if qpopper, or its functional equivalent, is
    > available under 13.1.


    What's that, a pop3 server?
    Why can't you use other thing?


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    Default Re: Where did qpopper go under 13.1?

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-01-29 05:56, RBEmerson wrote:
    >
    > From what I can see, qpopper was dropped from 13.1. It seems to have
    > been reported in Bugzilla [Bug 850801] but I can't find any progress on
    > that.


    Why did you not ask again in Bugzilla? More people asking, more chances
    of responses.
    Please see PM.:-)

    You could ask on the factory mail list. There is a factory package, a
    12.3 package, on the main repo, but not for 13.1.

    Code:
    http://software.opensuse.org/package/qpopper
    That seems to be the only option at the moment.

    > Unfortunately, for the time being, qpopper is literally mission
    > critical to me. Without it, I have to go back to 12.1, where it works. I
    > tried using the 12.1 repositories. I found qpopper but installing it
    > breaks a lot (280+) of stuff. I found a package on qpopper.org which, if
    > it comes to that, I'll try compiling. But rather than re-invent the
    > wheel, I want to know if qpopper, or its functional equivalent, is
    > available under 13.1.

    What's that, a pop3 server?
    Why can't you use other thing?


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    Carlos E. R.
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    Yep - qpopper has been working like a charm as a simple server. There are other packages, involving IMAP, etc., which means overhauling a major feature of the mission for this machine. Maybe it's not being willing to give up having a buggy whip socket on the dashboards of Ferraris, but qpopper has gotten the job done so why change it? "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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    Default Re: Where did qpopper go under 13.1?

    On 2014-01-29 16:26, RBEmerson wrote:
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    > robin_listas;2620393 Wrote:



    >> Why did you not ask again in Bugzilla? More people asking, more chances
    >> of responses.


    > Please see PM.:-)


    I did, at least one, but it is better if you keep technical issues on
    the thread, for several reasons: one, is that more people see them and
    can add comments if something occurs to them. Another, is that for me,
    as I do not use the forum via web, but via nntp, replying to PMs is a
    bit more complicated.

    About the second one, understood. :-)


    There are many bugzilla systems. Our system is usually very slow to
    respond, but when the responses come, they are usually good quality.
    Believe me, it is better to add a "me too" to that old bugzilla and ask
    again.

    The other route is asking on the factory mail list, because the people
    that removed qpopper should be reading it.

    I can do that for you later, if I remember.

    >>> Unfortunately, for the time being, qpopper is literally mission
    >>> critical to me. Without it, I have to go back to 12.1, where it works.


    You still have your older disk, so you can replace it back, till you
    have more free time. It should be working. Or, go to 12.3, which also
    has qpopper, and is maintained (12.1 is not).


    > Yep - qpopper has been working like a charm as a simple server. There
    > are other packages, involving IMAP, etc., which means overhauling a
    > major feature of the mission for this machine. Maybe it's not being
    > willing to give up having a buggy whip socket on the dashboards of
    > Ferraris, but qpopper has gotten the job done so why change it? "If it
    > ain't broke, don't fix it."


    Well, dovecot has both imap and pop3. It is what I use. Very powerful.

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    Default Re: Where did qpopper go under 13.1?

    The factory 1-click install failed - qpopper can't be installed. The 32 and 64 bit d/l links 404. I'll look at compiling the source but I don't think that will improve the situation.
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    Default Re: Where did qpopper go under 13.1?

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-01-29 16:26, RBEmerson wrote:
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    > robin_listas;2620393 Wrote:



    >> Why did you not ask again in Bugzilla? More people asking, more chances
    >> of responses.


    > Please see PM.:-)


    I did, at least one, but it is better if you keep technical issues on
    the thread, for several reasons: one, is that more people see them and
    can add comments if something occurs to them. Another, is that for me,
    as I do not use the forum via web, but via nntp, replying to PMs is a
    bit more complicated.

    About the second one, understood. :-)
    That's the operative PM.
    There are many bugzilla systems. Our system is usually very slow to
    respond, but when the responses come, they are usually good quality.
    Believe me, it is better to add a "me too" to that old bugzilla and ask
    again.

    The other route is asking on the factory mail list, because the people
    that removed qpopper should be reading it.
    I'll me too.
    I can do that for you later, if I remember.

    >>> Unfortunately, for the time being, qpopper is literally mission
    >>> critical to me. Without it, I have to go back to 12.1, where it works.

    You still have your older disk, so you can replace it back, till you
    have more free time. It should be working. Or, go to 12.3, which also
    has qpopper, and is maintained (12.1 is not).
    Now there's a thought...

    > Yep - qpopper has been working like a charm as a simple server. There
    > are other packages, involving IMAP, etc., which means overhauling a
    > major feature of the mission for this machine. Maybe it's not being
    > willing to give up having a buggy whip socket on the dashboards of
    > Ferraris, but qpopper has gotten the job done so why change it? "If it
    > ain't broke, don't fix it."

    Well, dovecot has both imap and pop3. It is what I use. Very powerful.

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    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
    I saw the dovecot description while looking for qpopper. If i can set imap aside for the moment, it's a possible 13.1 solution. And, no doubt, a seed for another cascade of questions from me. (Do I hear the sound of people fleeing in terror?)

    Summing up: the question of "where did qpopper go under 13.1" is answered with "away". See above re: price of progress. [/grin]
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    Default Re: Where did qpopper go under 13.1?

    Quote Originally Posted by RBEmerson View Post
    From what I can see, qpopper was dropped from 13.1.
    When I was managing a department solaris network, I used qpopper. I never had a problem compiling it.

    My guess is that it was dropped for lack of support. At one time there were frequent bug fixes. Then those died out. Checking the "qpopper" home page, the most recent version seems to be from June 2011. And, even then, it was listed as "unsupported".
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    Default Re: Where did qpopper go under 13.1?

    Yep. I think qpopper has pooped out. ;-P
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    Default Re: Where did qpopper go under 13.1?

    On 2014-01-29 17:36, RBEmerson wrote:
    > robin_listas;2620433 Wrote:


    >> There are many bugzilla systems. Our system is usually very slow to
    >> respond, but when the responses come, they are usually good quality.
    >> Believe me, it is better to add a "me too" to that old bugzilla and ask
    >> again.
    >>
    >> The other route is asking on the factory mail list, because the people
    >> that removed qpopper should be reading it.
    >> I'll me too.

    > I can do that for you later, if I remember.


    I already posted on the mail list.

    However, that bugzilla was entered as an upgrade problem; it is possibly
    not the best "component".


    >> Well, dovecot has both imap and pop3. It is what I use. Very powerful.


    > I saw the dovecot description while looking for qpopper. If i can set
    > imap aside for the moment, it's a possible 13.1 solution.


    imap can certainly be disabled.

    > And, no doubt,
    > a seed for another cascade of questions from me. (Do I hear the sound of
    > people fleeing in terror?)



    ......


    (they are far away :-P )


    > Summing up: the question of "where did qpopper go under 13.1" is
    > answered with "away". See above re: price of progress. [/grin]


    Well, I'd expect an answer from someone. Maybe there was no maintainer
    for 13.1. It is curious.


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    Default Re: Where did qpopper go under 13.1?

    Given the list of things broken while trying to install qpopper under 13.1, and given there are alternatives that are more robust, I'd say it's like trying to maintain buggy whip sockets for the Ferrari crowd... ;-P
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