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    Default Hard Drive Recommendation

    Hi,
    My hard drive is dying
    http://paste.opensuse.org/21982125

    Any recommendation for a replacement is appreciated
    This dying hard drive is 2-TB I am looking for just 1-TB
    replacement.

    Another thing, can I mix a SSD with SATA hard drive both internal?

    Thanks in advance.

    Edit.
    My budget should not exceed $150.00
    People who do not break things first will never learn to create anything

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    Default Re: Hard Drive Recommendation

    On 2014-01-10 00:56, conram wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    > My hard drive is dying
    > http://paste.opensuse.org/21982125


    Please boot some Linux and paste here the output of:

    Code:
    smartctl -a /dev/sdX
    for that disk.

    >
    > Any recommendation for a replacement is appreciated
    > This dying hard drive is 2-TB I am looking for just 1-TB
    > replacement.


    http://www.pccomponentes.com/discos_...3_5_sata/1_tb/

    > Edit.
    > My budget should not exceed $150.00


    The above link prices go from 52.95€ to 80€. I'll let you do the
    conversion :-p

    (I personally use the cheaper in that list, or very similar - Seagate
    Barracuda series)


    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

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    Default Re: Hard Drive Recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-01-10 00:56, conram wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    > My hard drive is dying
    > http://paste.opensuse.org/21982125


    Please boot some Linux and paste here the output of:

    Code:
    smartctl -a /dev/sdX
    for that disk.

    >
    > Any recommendation for a replacement is appreciated
    > This dying hard drive is 2-TB I am looking for just 1-TB
    > replacement.


    http://www.pccomponentes.com/discos_...3_5_sata/1_tb/

    > Edit.
    > My budget should not exceed $150.00


    The above link prices go from 52.95€ to 80€. I'll let you do the
    conversion :-p

    (I personally use the cheaper in that list, or very similar - Seagate
    Barracuda series)


    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
    Hi Carlos,
    I did the smartctl in this drive last October with errors until last week
    It is now showiing the warning before boot.

    Code:
    smartctl -a /dev/sda
    smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.11.6-4-desktop] (SUSE RPM)
    Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
    
    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Model Family:     Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000
    Device Model:     Hitachi HDS723020BLA642
    Serial Number:    MN1240FA0A7AED
    LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 36ac4a740
    Firmware Version: MN6OA5Q0
    User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
    Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
    Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
    Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
    ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
    SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
    Local Time is:    Thu Jan  9 20:28:02 2014 EST
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled
    
    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!
    Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.
    See vendor-specific Attribute list for failed Attributes.
    
    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status:  (0x84)    Offline data collection activity
                        was suspended by an interrupting command from host.
                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
    Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                        without error or no self-test has ever 
                        been run.
    Total time to complete Offline 
    data collection:         (18950) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities:              (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                        command.
                        Offline surface scan supported.
                        Self-test supported.
                        No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                        Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                        power-saving mode.
                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                        General Purpose Logging supported.
    Short self-test routine 
    recommended polling time:      (   2) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time:      ( 316) minutes.
    SCT capabilities:            (0x003d)    SCT Status supported.
                        SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                        SCT Feature Control supported.
                        SCT Data Table supported.
    
    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
      1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   077   007   016    Pre-fail  Always   In_the_past 4916352
      2 Throughput_Performance  0x0027   099   098   054    Pre-fail  Always       -       258
      3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0023   134   100   024    Pre-fail  Always       -       425 (Average 428)
      4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1554
      5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   001   001   005    Pre-fail  Always   FAILING_NOW 1319 (0 1266)
      7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002f   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0025   135   100   020    Pre-fail  Offline      -       26
      9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       5952
     10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
     12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1552
    183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    184 End-to-End_Error        0x0033   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
    185 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   001   001   000    Old_age   Always       -       16777215
    187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   074   074   000    Old_age   Always       -       106299418
    188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   001   000    Old_age   Always       -       597103673807
    189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   068   063   000    Old_age   Always       -       32 (Min/Max 22/32)
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       1554
    193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       1554
    194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   187   162   000    Old_age   Always       -       32 (Min/Max 19/37)
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   037   037   000    Old_age   Always       -       1319
    197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   070   069   000    Old_age   Always       -       721
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0036   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
    
    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    ATA Error Count: 29283 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
        CR = Command Register [HEX]
        FR = Features Register [HEX]
        SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
        SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
        CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
        CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
        DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
        DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
        ER = Error register [HEX]
        ST = Status register [HEX]
    Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
    DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
    SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.
    
    Error 29283 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 5941 hours (247 days + 13 hours)
      When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
    
      After command completion occurred, registers were:
      ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
      -- -- -- -- -- -- --
      40 41 04 bc b7 78 00  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0078b7bc = 7911356
    
      Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
      CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
      -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
      60 08 00 b8 b7 78 40 00      01:53:47.065  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      ef 10 02 00 00 00 a0 00      01:53:47.063  SET FEATURES [Enable SATA feature]
      ec 00 00 00 00 00 a0 00      01:53:47.060  IDENTIFY DEVICE
      ef 03 46 00 00 00 a0 00      01:53:47.060  SET FEATURES [Set transfer mode]
      ef 10 02 00 00 00 a0 00      01:53:47.059  SET FEATURES [Enable SATA feature]
    
    Error 29282 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 5941 hours (247 days + 13 hours)
      When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
    
      After command completion occurred, registers were:
      ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
      -- -- -- -- -- -- --
      40 41 04 bc b7 78 00  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0078b7bc = 7911356
    
      Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
      CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
      -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
      60 08 00 b8 b7 78 40 00      01:53:44.186  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      61 08 00 60 34 29 40 00      01:53:43.793  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
      61 48 00 18 34 29 40 00      01:53:43.782  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
      61 08 00 10 4c 69 40 00      01:53:43.690  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
      61 60 00 b0 4b 69 40 00      01:53:43.674  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
    
    Error 29281 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 5941 hours (247 days + 13 hours)
      When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
    
      After command completion occurred, registers were:
      ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
      -- -- -- -- -- -- --
      40 41 04 bc b7 78 00  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0078b7bc = 7911356
    
      Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
      CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
      -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
      60 08 00 b8 b7 78 40 00      01:53:34.691  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      61 08 00 58 00 65 40 00      01:53:34.674  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
      ef 10 02 00 00 00 a0 00      01:53:34.674  SET FEATURES [Enable SATA feature]
      ec 00 00 00 00 00 a0 00      01:53:34.671  IDENTIFY DEVICE
      ef 03 46 00 00 00 a0 00      01:53:34.671  SET FEATURES [Set transfer mode]
    
    Error 29280 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 5941 hours (247 days + 13 hours)
      When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
    
      After command completion occurred, registers were:
      ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
      -- -- -- -- -- -- --
      40 41 04 bc b7 78 00  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0078b7bc = 7911356
    
      Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
      CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
      -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
      60 08 00 b8 b7 78 40 00      01:53:31.316  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      60 08 00 b0 b7 78 40 00      01:53:31.316  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      60 08 00 a8 b7 78 40 00      01:53:31.310  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      60 08 00 a0 b7 78 40 00      01:53:31.310  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      60 08 00 98 b7 78 40 00      01:53:31.310  READ FPDMA QUEUED
    
    Error 29279 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 5941 hours (247 days + 13 hours)
      When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
    
      After command completion occurred, registers were:
      ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
      -- -- -- -- -- -- --
      40 41 44 bc b7 78 00  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0078b7bc = 7911356
    
      Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
      CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
      -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
      60 00 00 00 b7 78 40 00      01:53:28.218  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      60 00 08 00 b5 78 40 00      01:53:27.985  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      60 00 00 00 b3 78 40 00      01:53:27.983  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      60 00 08 00 b1 78 40 00      01:53:27.981  READ FPDMA QUEUED
      60 00 00 00 af 78 40 00      01:53:27.979  READ FPDMA QUEUED
    
    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
    # 1  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%      5567         15705758
    # 2  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%      5471         597440883
    # 3  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%      5424         1148567044
    # 4  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%      5424         1148567044
    # 5  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%      5419         1124848642
    # 6  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%      5419         597440883
    # 7  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%      5419         597440883
    # 8  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%      5418         597440883
    # 9  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%      5418         597440883
    #10  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%      5386         605001374
    #11  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%       729         -
    #12  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       724         -
    #13  Short offline       Interrupted (host reset)      50%       720         -
    #14  Short offline       Interrupted (host reset)      70%       714         -
    #15  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       114         -
    
    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
     SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
        1        0        0  Not_testing
        2        0        0  Not_testing
        3        0        0  Not_testing
        4        0        0  Not_testing
        5        0        0  Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
      After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
    People who do not break things first will never learn to create anything

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    Default Re: Hard Drive Recommendation

    On 2014-01-10 02:36, conram wrote:


    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > smartctl -a /dev/sda


    > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE


    > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 001 001 005 Pre-fail Always FAILING_NOW 1319 (0 1266)


    ah, yes, this is bad.

    > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5952


    That disk is not old... Mine have 15000 hours and in good health. Is it
    a laptop?


    > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 037 037 000 Old_age Always - 1319
    > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 070 069 000 Old_age Always - 721


    Those are pretty bad, too.


    > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    > Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
    > # 1 Short offline Completed: read failure 90% 5567 15705758


    > #10 Short offline Completed: read failure 90% 5386 605001374


    Notice that it started to give warnings 200 hours of use ago.


    Yes, do not continue using that disk, make a backup ASAP, and replace it
    now.

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

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    Default Re: Hard Drive Recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-01-10 02:36, conram wrote:


    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > smartctl -a /dev/sda


    > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE


    > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 001 001 005 Pre-fail Always FAILING_NOW 1319 (0 1266)


    ah, yes, this is bad.

    > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5952


    That disk is not old... Mine have 15000 hours and in good health. Is it
    a laptop?


    > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 037 037 000 Old_age Always - 1319
    > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 070 069 000 Old_age Always - 721


    Those are pretty bad, too.


    > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    > Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
    > # 1 Short offline Completed: read failure 90% 5567 15705758


    > #10 Short offline Completed: read failure 90% 5386 605001374


    Notice that it started to give warnings 200 hours of use ago.


    Yes, do not continue using that disk, make a backup ASAP, and replace it
    now.

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
    I said in my previous post I detected this last October
    The drive was only used for 13 months and this January, 18 months.
    I am really disappointed with this, that is why I posted here and don't just grab
    one for replacement to avoid another disaster.

    Had this happened before July last year even if it was under warranty, i would not
    go for a under warranty replacement of the same brand and will opt to buy another brand replacement.
    People who do not break things first will never learn to create anything

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    Default Re: Hard Drive Recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-01-10 02:36, conram wrote:

    > #10 Short offline Completed: read failure 90% 5386 605001374


    Notice that it started to give warnings 200 hours of use ago.

    Yes, do not continue using that disk, make a backup ASAP, and replace it
    now.

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
    Yes I already did the backup in the first week of December
    all works in this machine now were all being save outside.
    People who do not break things first will never learn to create anything

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    Default Re: Hard Drive Recommendation

    Western Digital Enterprise Range HDD
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-378-WD
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    Default Re: Hard Drive Recommendation

    caf4926 wrote:
    > Western Digital Enterprise Range HDD
    > http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-378-WD


    This is the trouble with threads like this. I wouldn't touch WD with a
    bargepole; my reasons have been discussed repeatedly before in various
    places. JMHO.

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    Default Re: Hard Drive Recommendation

    Last Saturday I ordered a new desktop PC, that will have both an SSD and an HD. The HD is to be a 2TB Seagate HDD Barracuda 7200.14 2TB, SATA 6Gb/s. The PC has not yet arrived, so I can not yet comment on how well it works with openSUSE.

  10. #10

    Default Re: Hard Drive Recommendation

    Thanks for the responses,
    i was contemplating between the WD caviar black and seagate baracuda
    I think the seagate barracuda has the edge base from postings above.
    Anymore thoughts?

    For an SSD with maybe just around 128GB, any recommendation welcome.

    I would like to mix the two drives.
    People who do not break things first will never learn to create anything

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