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    Default Start a new.. Has Linux lost the desktop forever?

    -lack of mentioned opensuse. As well here where other dist are named.
    I quest again the purpose of opensuse. (I like it and prefer)! I notice that at least i have figure out some new on the bord at opensuse. Based om information on this site. Important? Maybe not. -->Forwards in media is always good.
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    Default Re: Start a new.. Has Linux lost the desktop forever?

    quote from the website:

    I've run into these Negative Ned stories about Linux failing on the desktop before, and they always seem fixated on the market share of Windows
    Should be enough to answer the question why, my friend. But no fear. Linux is stable. Linux's name does get around over the net. People are willing to give it a try and some will like it.
    One thing to keep in mind is that what's said at that link above is just one person's opinion. An opinion in which I disagree.

    By the way, the post at the link mentions ZDNet. I wouldn't trust a word from those guys from that site. They are over opinionated, lack complete real-world insight and like to over state their own opinions.
    I wouldn't be surprised that they are still hard-core Windows users, Inspite of thier saying about Chromebooks potentially killing off Windows. I'd forget about what they say.

    Besides, once the peak of chromebooks has reached it'll stabilize and might even decline. Kind of like Mozilla Firefox. There was a time when firefox's popularity exploded and then declined/stablized. It's much the same even with Operating Systems. Maybe Linux's popularity has reached a point of stabilization. And if it has, then it's something that the guys over at
    ZDNet have most obviously have failed to correctly recognize with their over-stated and biased opinions.

    Microsoft's flawed Windows 8.x continues to be as popular as hot chocolate in July

    Probably more correctly said as wearing a sweater on a hot day in July.
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    Default Re: Start a new.. Has Linux lost the desktop forever?

    In the political world, new ideas may take 30-50 years before they become mainstream; why should linux be different?

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    Default Re: Start a new.. Has Linux lost the desktop forever?

    Quote Originally Posted by BSDuser View Post
    In the political world, new ideas may take 30-50 years before they become mainstream; why should linux be different?
    Yup.
    15 years ago: linux will never be a serious OS.
    10 years ago: linux won't survice the next 10 years
    5 years ago: the linux desktop is dead.

    If we're talking "linux", it's already mainstream. Webservers, mainframes, networkdevices, NAS'es etc, multimedia devices, Android devices, and so on and so on. Ifelse () we're talking linux distributions and desktops, nope not mainstream, but a lot of the progress made on linux desktops now is. KDE used widgets long before any other desktop did, to mention just one example.
    One of the main points in this matter, is that we simply don't have the budget to run a billion dollar "Tired from the it-just-works-world? Try one of these" marketing campaign.
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    Default Re: Start a new.. Has Linux lost the desktop forever?

    No, with windows 8 being a flop overall (it still doesnt have the market share of 7 or XP) I say there is a gap for linux to fill, its not over yet and desktops are still going to be a force.
    Sure the mobile market is growing bigger but the desktop market is likely to stay good as some people just like the reliability of a hard line desktop as opposed to a tablet.

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    Default Re: Start a new.. Has Linux lost the desktop forever?

    I think the main issue is that Linux-based OSes are not marketable, in a sense. We do not need to do anything to our products to make them more of a success as they are. What we need to do is improve the reputation of the existing userbase. People don't feel comfortable switching to Linux because they don't feel warranted for any problems that may arise. They don't want to spend time in forums dealing with people they don't know they'll be able to understand. The community is faceless to them. We don't have the sort of structure that would allow us to compete with say, Apple's customer support, at least not for consumer desktops. With professional server products, we've hit the nail on the head, but we don't have appealing infrastructure for average joes. This is why none of the large PC vendors are not going to be switching to SUSE or its alternatives any time soon.

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    Default Re: Start a new.. Has Linux lost the desktop forever?

    No but the desktop is not where it is at; across the whole smartphone, tablet, laptop, PC market, Windows now has around 30% share and the most popular interface is Android. Desktops will survive in business environments and, because of the difficulties in shifting from Windows - the City of Munich took ten years to complete the move and IBM normally advises companies to plan any such move over five years - there will be Windows desktops around for at least another ten years.

    However, many banks, for example, now offer mobile apps for Internet banking and it is likely that most Internet transactions will involve smartphones and tablets - where Linux is now dominant - rather than traditional PCs in future.

    In due course, a new generation will arise that regards Windows as a dinosaur because they have become used to Linux based interactions and businesses will realise that it is better to offer a Linux desktop with which their staff are familiar rather than the Windows one their parents used.

    My guess is that, notwithstanding the example of the City of Munich, the last refuge of the Windows desktop will be in local government organisations and small businesses run by older generation managers who first learned about computing in the late 1990s.

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    Default Re: Start a new.. Has Linux lost the desktop forever?

    Linux was never in competition with commercial companies so nothing is lost: it remains free for those who want to participate. And although the market share is little we still talk about a huge community.

    With some issues, at least in order to get a bigger part of the desktop.

    One is that the effort isn't really focused and a simple visit to distrowatch.com makes that clear.
    Two is that most of these distributions are in constant flux, there is absolutely no stability. Regular re-installations rule.
    Third is that hardware support. In a previous computer after an update to 13.1 suddenly KDE didn't work anymore due to some issues with the graphic card.
    And the last is that things like UEFI may very well be for the good of Windows users, fact remains that it makes installation of other OS more difficult.

    I think Linux is here to stay: a non commercial alternative for home desktop users. And of course a very professional alternative for businesses in either server or desktop. But Windows won't disappear. The 'battle for the desktop' could as well be a question for Linux: who will win, Gnome? KDE? Unity? On the other hand, that choice is why I like Linux.

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    Default Re: Start a new.. Has Linux lost the desktop forever?

    According to this article Linux has gained 30%.

    According to the data provided by netmarketshare.com, the Linux desktops have registered a surge in 2013. They started the year at 1.21% in January and ended at 1.73% in December.
    Linux PCs Show Huge 30% Increase in 2013
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    Default Re: Start a new.. Has Linux lost the desktop forever?

    Quote Originally Posted by rafter22 View Post
    According to this article Linux has gained 30%.



    Linux PCs Show Huge 30% Increase in 2013
    Good news ...

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