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    Default Re: openSUSE 13.1 (i586) server hangs / freezes / gets unresponsiverandomly

    On 2014-01-05 14:06, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > On 2014-01-05 13:56, rollex2 wrote:
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    >> I indeed have 32bit 13.1. I would appreciate the links or kernel update
    >> procedure!

    >
    > A procedure I don't have, because there is no official update for the problem they found. And the
    > emails that explained it I have saved on a system that is currently running a backup, so I can not
    > access them. Ping me in some hours.


    Found a link.

    http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=493955

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    Default Re: openSUSE 13.1 (i586) server hangs / freezes / gets unresponsiverandomly

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-01-05 13:56, rollex2 wrote:

    > I indeed have 32bit 13.1. I would appreciate the links or kernel update
    > procedure!


    A procedure I don't have, because there is no official update for the problem they found. And the
    emails that explained it I have saved on a system that is currently running a backup, so I can not
    access them. Ping me in some hours.

    It is possible to update to a more recent kernel from the repo where they experiment with them. I'm
    not familiar with that repo, I hesitate to give instructions.

    I have a 32 bit machine I want to update to 13.1 but I'm also waiting for the kernel official
    upgrade before doing it.

    But I don't know if this reported problem is related to yours.

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    Now when I checked back my /etc/motd I noticed I had updated from 12.3 to 13.1 30th of November 2013 and right after that the crashing started. I had stated in the motd in 04.12.2013 "I have no idea what happened, but the whole system freezed and I had to press reset physically! I was watching movie on Plex normally. This started a week ago or so." So I guess this kinda finally confirms it's about 32bit 13.1. I had no issues in 12.3 and prior.
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    Default Re: openSUSE 13.1 (i586) server hangs / freezes / gets unresponsiverandomly

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-01-05 14:06, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > On 2014-01-05 13:56, rollex2 wrote:
    >
    >> I indeed have 32bit 13.1. I would appreciate the links or kernel update
    >> procedure!

    >
    > A procedure I don't have, because there is no official update for the problem they found. And the
    > emails that explained it I have saved on a system that is currently running a backup, so I can not
    > access them. Ping me in some hours.


    Found a link.

    Suspend from disk fails

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    Thanks a lot! It seems I have stumbled on that topic before when googled about this. But it seems to be different issue, though the freezing we have in common. I don't use suspend/hibernate at all, unless new suse has some feature that chooses to do that randomly or when idle? seems unlikely.

    Btw, how do I know if I can continue using my hard disks safely? I removed the one completely that didn't get mounted and was the result of "Error No Operating system, Please reboot and select proper boot device" after one of the freezes. That was 320 GB Seagate my suse was earlier. Now I have my system on 500 GB Western Digital Blue I took from other PC, 1000 GB Western Digital Green which has media mostly.

    My server has been up for 5 hours straight perfectly fine now, completely without transmission-daemon that I suspect is causing this behaviour. This is just a hunch but I really suspect seeding/downloading lots of files at once does something and the kernel hangs. I haven't been touching to my 1000 GB HDD either.

    But then I don't really know. Pretty clueless... I don't want to change my favourite distro to something else because of this. I want to take this as a challence. The only problem is the very odd and random cause I can't seem to sort out...
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    Default Re: openSUSE 13.1 (i586) server hangs / freezes / gets unresponsive randomly

    Okay, confirmed. 6 hours uptime, no problems. Started transmission-daemon = 10 minutes and frozen system. I haven't done much installing apps and stuff so I'm going to try CentOS now. It breaks my heart to do this since I've been openSUSE user forever BUT, if it makes my server run stable again so be it!

    Some strange settings I have, combination of apps, or something in transmission makes the kernel go BOOM. Can't spend more time figuring it out. I'm not clearing anything out but it is certainly not a hardware problem when things can run smoothly for hours or even days if one or two apps are not running.
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    Default Re: openSUSE 13.1 (i586) server hangs / freezes / gets unresponsiverandomly

    On 2014-01-05 19:16, rollex2 wrote:
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    > Okay, confirmed. 6 hours uptime, no problems. Started
    > transmission-daemon = 10 minutes and frozen system.


    Well, then the culprit is transmission, not openSUSE Linux.

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    Default Re: openSUSE 13.1 (i586) server hangs / freezes / gets unresponsiverandomly

    On 2014-01-05 18:06, rollex2 wrote:

    > Thanks a lot! It seems I have stumbled on that topic before when googled
    > about this. But it seems to be different issue, though the freezing we
    > have in common. I don't use suspend/hibernate at all, unless new suse
    > has some feature that chooses to do that randomly or when idle? seems
    > unlikely.


    No, that would not happen.


    > Btw, how do I know if I can continue using my hard disks safely? I
    > removed the one completely that didn't get mounted and was the result of
    > -"Error No Operating system, Please reboot and select proper boot
    > device"- after one of the freezes. That was 320 GB Seagate my suse was
    > earlier. Now I have my system on 500 GB Western Digital Blue I took from
    > other PC, 1000 GB Western Digital Green which has media mostly.


    Well, as I said, you have to run the smartctl long test on your disks.
    And you should do that before attempting anything else.

    > My server has been up for 5 hours straight perfectly fine now,
    > completely without transmission-daemon that I suspect is causing this
    > behaviour. This is just a hunch but I really suspect seeding/downloading
    > lots of files at once does something and the kernel hangs. I haven't
    > been touching to my 1000 GB HDD either.


    If there is a bad block in the region of disk where those files are
    stored, that would be a problem.

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    Default Re: openSUSE 13.1 (i586) server hangs / freezes / gets unresponsiverandomly

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2014-01-05 19:16, rollex2 wrote:
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    > Okay, confirmed. 6 hours uptime, no problems. Started
    > transmission-daemon = 10 minutes and frozen system.


    Well, then the culprit is transmission, not openSUSE Linux.

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    No, something in transmission causes suse to crash. I tried versions from 2.50 to 2.82+ and none of them worked with suse 13.1. Before 13.1 I had no issues.

    I'm now on CentOS 6.5 and running the same transmission-daemon (with exactly the same settings!) for hours now, so I guess this was it. If you don't hear from me any more, I guess this solved it. thanks Carols for your support, I really appreciate it!
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    Default Re: openSUSE 13.1 (i586) server hangs / freezes / gets unresponsiverandomly

    On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 13:26:54 GMT "Carlos E. R." wrote:

    > http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=493955


    I use suspend only on my laptop and because of this discussion from
    your link i start using the kernel-standard repository without any
    problems yet. With the multiversion feature of zypp it is no problem to
    step back if the devs solves the problem with the normal kernel.

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    Default Re: openSUSE 13.1 (i586) server hangs / freezes / gets unresponsiverandomly

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferenginar View Post
    On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 13:26:54 GMT "Carlos E. R." wrote:

    > http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=493955


    I use suspend only on my laptop and because of this discussion from
    your link i start using the kernel-standard repository without any
    problems yet. With the multiversion feature of zypp it is no problem to
    step back if the devs solves the problem with the normal kernel.
    Coming back to report here that my Centos 6.5 uptime is 167 days now. No problems whatsover. I hope this nasty kernel bug is fixed or getting fixed soon. Sad to go but farewell my dearest openSUSE. We shall meet in Valhalla.
    Chameleon in my heart since 2006.

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