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    Default Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

    I have a new Toshiba C855D-S5900 with Windows 8 (present on the HD, but I have not accepted the EULA). When I try to use the install disks (tried both Net x86_64 and DVD x86_64) it only has 3 choices on the install screen - Installation, Rescue, and Check media. I have not been able to access any F-key commands or change the options of the 3 commands. When I clik any of the 3, it gets to:
    Starting udev...
    and halts with no messages.

    With the KDE Live x86_64 it halts at approximately the same location, at: /usr/sbin/klogconsole

    Do I need to accept the Microsoft EULA (Yecch ...) and let it prep the disks before installing 13.1?

    Thanks, Do

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    Default Re: Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

    No you don't need to do anything with EULA.

    Problem is probably graphics and with a UEFI boot you don't get the F keys. (Have no idea why not) But it is apperntly by design.

    So what video do you have.

    Note not sure this apply at the DVD boot or not
    You may try editing the boot parameters/ press e at boot screen find the line that starts with linux press end key enter a space and nomodeset press F10 to boot

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    Default Re: Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    No you don't need to do anything with EULA.

    Problem is probably graphics and with a UEFI boot you don't get the F keys. (Have no idea why not) But it is apperntly by design.

    So what video do you have.

    Note not sure this apply at the DVD boot or not
    You may try editing the boot parameters/ press e at boot screen find the line that starts with linux press end key enter a space and nomodeset press F10 to boot
    Stopped at same place.
    I see this error:
    Code:
    mount : using /dev/loop1
    [ ... ] BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 0 devices found
    [ ... ] EDD information not available.
    insmod: error inserting '/modules/edd.ko': -1 No such device
    
    >>> openSUSE installation program v4.1.5 ... 
    Starting udev
    The CPU/Video is: AMD E-Series Processor E-300/AMD Radeon™ HD 6310
    Thanks, Do


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    Default Re: Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

    Did you check the checksums for the ISO?

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    Default Re: Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    Did you check the checksums for the ISO?
    Yes, I did (for both the DVD and the Net Install CD).

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    Default Re: Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    ... and with a UEFI boot you don't get the F keys. (Have no idea why not) But it is apperntly by design.
    If I understand you correctly, I don't think that is correct. The F-keys during boot aren't disabled, but the new PCs are so fast that the time window available for pressing F-keys to do anything is diminishing.

    Also, several computers now come with so called multimedia keyboards. On laptops, that is implemented by "inverting" the F-keys functionality. That is, if you want to press an F-key, you need to press the <Fn>-key, then the <Fx>-key that you want. My Toshiba Satellite P50A is one of those. On my computer, to add to the confusion, pre UEFI loading, e.g. <Fn>+<F2> does not work. I have to press <F2> directly. Then, after UEFI has finished loading, I need to press <Fn>+<F2> in order to get the F2 functionality. The switch happens mid-boot. So how do you get to press the proper F-key within a time window smaller than the keyboard's auto repeat rate? Not easy. Not easy at all.

    Luckily, I can disable the multimedia keyboard by setting a BIOS parameter, thereby making F-keys available by direct press only. The multimedia functions are then available throgh <Fn>+<Fx> combination. Much better.

    According to this Toshiba Satellite C855D-S5900 Laptop, the graphics is AMD Radeon™ HD 6310 graphics integrated on a AMD E-300 processor.


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    @DoitRight:
    Maybe the multimedia keyboard is part of your problem. According to what I can see from the photos available from the link above, you have the same keyboard configuration - so maybe you can rectify it the same way as I can (see above).

    Another thought: As a blind-test, try disabling your on-board 10/100Mbps LAN-adapter and try booting again. That may prove helpful, and too easy to execute before making further investigations to not to do it.


    dayfinger

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    Default Re: Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

    No the F keys in the Grub menu. They are not there for EFI installs which makes it hard to set noKMS to deal with problem video hardware on UEFI systems.

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    Default Re: Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

    Toshiba seems often to have problems with Linux. Maybe more info on the actual hardware in the machine??

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    Default Re: Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

    Quote Originally Posted by dayfinger View Post
    If I understand you correctly, I don't think that is correct. The F-keys during boot aren't disabled, but the new PCs are so fast that the time window available for pressing F-keys to do anything is diminishing.

    Also, several computers now come with so called multimedia keyboards. On laptops, that is implemented by "inverting" the F-keys functionality. That is, if you want to press an F-key, you need to press the <Fn>-key, then the <Fx>-key that you want. My Toshiba Satellite P50A is one of those. On my computer, to add to the confusion, pre UEFI loading, e.g. <Fn>+<F2> does not work. I have to press <F2> directly. Then, after UEFI has finished loading, I need to press <Fn>+<F2> in order to get the F2 functionality. The switch happens mid-boot. So how do you get to press the proper F-key within a time window smaller than the keyboard's auto repeat rate? Not easy. Not easy at all.

    Luckily, I can disable the multimedia keyboard by setting a BIOS parameter, thereby making F-keys available by direct press only. The multimedia functions are then available throgh <Fn>+<Fx> combination. Much better.

    According to this Toshiba Satellite C855D-S5900 Laptop, the graphics is AMD Radeon™ HD 6310 graphics integrated on a AMD E-300 processor.
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    @DoitRight:
    Maybe the multimedia keyboard is part of your problem. According to what I can see from the photos available from the link above, you have the same keyboard configuration - so maybe you can rectify it the same way as I can (see above).

    Another thought: As a blind-test, try disabling your on-board 10/100Mbps LAN-adapter and try booting again. That may prove helpful, and too easy to execute before making further investigations to not to do it.

    dayfinger
    I had already reset the F-keys to the std usage (i.e. I need to push the Fn+F(x) button to access the extended usage such as dim the screen). Disabling the on-board lan adapter did not change anything.
    @gogalthor what other hw info do you need?
    Thanks, Do

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    Default Re: Installing 13.1 on a new Toshiba (Secure Boot/UEFI and Windows 8).

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    Toshiba seems often to have problems with Linux. Maybe more info on the actual hardware in the machine??
    Link to Toshiba site: Toshiba Satellite C855D-S5900 Laptop
    Thanks, Do

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