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    Default NVIDIA Driver 96.43.23 incomplete?

    Hello,

    I tried to install the x11-video-nvidia-96.43.23-23.1.i586.rm OpenSuse 13.1. For the GeForce4 MX 4000 I think it is the right driver - even Yast is using it for the one-click install. During the installation missing dependencies are indicated to the package

    nvidia-gfx-kmp = 96.43.23

    How do I get the driver installed?

    Cheers, Knut

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    Quote Originally Posted by kschwi View Post
    I tried to install the x11-video-nvidia-96.43.23-23.1.i586.rm. For the GeForce4 MX 4000 I think it is the right driver - even Yast is using it for the one-click install. During the installation missing dependencies are indicated to the package

    nvidia-gfx-kmp = 96.43.23

    How do I get the driver installed?
    The kernel module is missing in the repo.
    Maybe this old driver doesn't compile with Kernel 3.11 anymore? Wouldn't surprise me since also the newer ones had problems until recently.

    You could download it from the nvidia homepage and try to compile it yourself, but I guess this won't work either.

    So I think your only choice is to stay with the nouveau driver.

    You could of course file a bug report at http://bugzilla.novell.com/ (same username/password as here) and/or complain to nvidia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    You could download it from the nvidia homepage and try to compile it yourself, but I guess this won't work either.
    I'll try that
    So I think your only choice is to stay with the nouveau driver.
    I would do that if the dual screen mode would be supported, which is the only reason to use the swap to the NVIDIA driver

    Knut

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    Quote Originally Posted by kschwi View Post
    I'll try that
    Well, I did find this now: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/t...x-3-11-needed/

    So you may be able to get it to work...

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    Default Re: NVIDIA Driver 96.43.23 incomplete?

    The driver
    compiles and can be installed without a problem. But that does not help. After a reboot the X-server has a problem with the new video interface and stops. It proposes to use a command line parameter to ignore this, but that leads to a crash of the X-server itself. Currently and specially based on the very kind way of treating this problem see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855454 I stop looking for this

    Knut

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    Default Re: NVIDIA Driver 96.43.23 incomplete?

    I would think a multi monitor setup should work with nouveau
    http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/...onitorDesktop/
    what have you already tried, what desktop environment are you using?

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    Default Re: NVIDIA Driver 96.43.23 incomplete?

    Quote Originally Posted by kschwi View Post
    Currently and specially based on the very kind way of treating this problem see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855454 I stop looking for this
    Well, that bug report got closed because the package maintainer doesn't want to include some random unofficial patch into the "official" driver package, which is understandable I think.

    OTOH, as you write yourself (and I found out as well in the meantime), even with that patch the 96.43.23 driver _does not_ work with current Xorg, even on 12.3 already. So don't rant here, demand an updated driver from nvidia instead...
    They are the only ones that can do this, because the driver is closed-source and proprietary.

    But better don't hold your breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Well, that bug report got closed because the package maintainer doesn't want to include some random unofficial patch into the "official" driver package, which is understandable I think.
    Could you please point to, where I requested a patch. From me as a user it is annoying that both points of view (nvidia and opensource) are on parallel universes that would never meet.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    So don't rant here, demand an updated driver from nvidia instead...
    The only things that starts me ranting is if private mails are moved to the public without permission and if I was accused of wanting things that I never asked for. I want a bug to be solved. So removing of an incomplete delivery is of course an acceptable solution - if it happens. I would close a bug if the job is done and not before... If there would have been a solution "of the records" with the unofficial patch to be described here and being not a part of any official delivery others could use that too. But this is not on the focus...

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    But better don't hold your breath.
    As you can see I won't do that. End of the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_helm View Post
    I would think a multi monitor setup should work with nouveau
    http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/...onitorDesktop/
    what have you already tried, what desktop environment are you using?
    I have not yet read and tried the linked article. I'll give it a try. As the desktop environment I'm using XFCE

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    Quote Originally Posted by kschwi View Post
    Could you please point to, where I requested a patch.
    In the bug report you created and linked to (against openSUSE), you asked for that inofficial patch to be included in the packages in the nvidia repo.

    The only things that starts me ranting is if private mails are moved to the public without permission and if I was accused of wanting things that I never asked for.
    What private mails were moved to the public? I don't know what you are talking about.
    You asked for that patch to be included in the openSUSE driver packages and complained here about the resolution of that bugreport.

    Ah, ok. I see now what you mean. The mail Stefan Dirsch quoted in the bug report.
    Well I (or anybody else here) can't help you there either. Complain to the person who did this.
    But this doesn't contain any private or even confidential stuff anyway IMHO.

    OTOH, why did you send this in private in the first place? Why didn't you just add that to the bug report?
    Btw, you can reopen a bugreport yourself if you don't agree with the resolution.

    I want a bug to be solved. So removing of an incomplete delivery is of course an acceptable solution - if it happens. I would close a bug if the job is done and not before... If there would have been a solution "of the records" with the unofficial patch to be described here and being not a part of any official delivery others could use that too. But this is not on the focus...
    Right. And the package did get removed, but reappeared when nvidia set up the repo again after it mysteriously disappeared...
    Maybe you or someone else should reopen the bugreport.

    And, again, the openSUSE maintainer closed your bugreport (should have been WONTFIX though I guess) because he didn't want to add an unofficial patch to the official packages.
    And as I found out in the meantime, that patch won't help anyway. Yes, you can compile the kernel module then and even build the packages, but they won't work with the newer Xorg included in 13.1 (and 12.3 already).

    I'll repeat myself: NVidia has to update their 96.xx driver to work with Xorg 1.13 and up but they didn't do it yet. And as it looks, they won't do it.
    So you should report a bug to nvidia.
    There's nothing openSUSE or anybody else can do in that case, since nvidia's driver is closed-source.

    I'm not happy with that either, but that's how it is.

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