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    Default Re: 13.1 DVD says welcome & dies

    On 2013-12-06 05:06, Fraser Bell wrote:
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    > robin_listas;2605593 Wrote:
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    >> Many computers do not have floppy, but despite that, the bios has an
    >> entry for floppy.


    > This is an important distinction robin_listas makes.
    >
    > On a couple of my machines, I have no floppy drives, but I have to go
    > into the BIOS and disable -*both*- the floppy drive -*and*- the floppy
    > drive controller to get a happy system. Check your BIOS for the same
    > entries and, if they are there, disable them.


    Yes. This has been irrelevant for a long time, but with recent releases
    it is a big problem, because the kernel sees that the bios reports a
    floppy driver and tries to see if has a floppy inside or something - and
    hangs or takes a huge time thinking about it. Not nice.

    Nothing to do with booting order.

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    I'm inclined to think something is borken in the box. I've done as much as I can to make the floppy drive cease to be but the BIOS won't make it completely disappear. Worse, sometimes the DVD's refuse to boot at all (remember I burned two DVD's with two different downloads of the .iso - same name, different sources and d/l modes). In those cases, the box starts up as if there was no disk in the CD/DVD drive, even though I can hear it spin up.

    And I'm now condemned to seeing that **** arctic scene with penguins marching around. It's displaced both the original SUSE splash screen for 13.1 ("Welcome" in a bunch of languages) and the splash screen that was the default without the DVD('s). I can't make the effin' thing go away. Talk about malware... [/looking to grab some fool by the neck and squeeze until it's eyes pop out of its head]
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    Oh wait. The cute l'il penguins are an Easter egg. [/face palm] Sheesh!

    BTW, the 4 splats above should read [/Delta Alpha Mike November] - God save us from censors!
    Last edited by RBEmerson; 06-Dec-2013 at 14:28. Reason: Adjusted prior message
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    Default Re: 13.1 DVD says welcome & dies

    On 2013-12-06 22:26, RBEmerson wrote:
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    > Oh wait. The cute l'il penguins are an Easter egg. [/face palm] Sheesh!


    Of course they are. A very cute and lovable one, that I miss sorely :-))

    (there is a petition to reinstate it on grub2)

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    You're welcome to mine. [/grin]
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    Back to the topic... safe mode made no difference in the "start the 13.1 kernel load and BANG!" problem. I can't think of a way to log what happened at the time of explosion. Also, when launching 12.1, there's a single boot entry: vga=0x31a (the actual value may be slight different, I'm working from memory, but it's close). Anyway, I tried that, too, with 13.1. Nada.

    In desperation, I'll burn yet another coaster by downloading a fresh .iso image via a Win7 machine and burning it with the machine's optical drive, which is know to work well on playing video and burning audio CD's.

    It'd help my general sense of sanity to think I'm not the only person seeing this problem...
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    On 2013-12-07 15:36, RBEmerson wrote:
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    > Back to the topic... safe mode made no difference in the "start the 13.1
    > kernel load and BANG!" problem. I can't think of a way to log what
    > happened at the time of explosion.


    Try this:

    Boot installation with logs on usb stick

    > SDB:YaST logging to USB stick during installation


    I have followed the procedure on a vmware player virtual machine. Just
    boot the dvd, and you get a menu to boot from the hard disk, run the
    installation, rescue system, check media, check firmware, check memory.
    And there is a line to enter boot options.

    Well, in that box i simply type what the help page says: "startshell=1".
    Just like that, and press enter. Boot proceeds, and you get to a linux
    shell, where you can mount the usb stick in "/var/log", following the
    instructions to the letter (of course, if you have several hard disks,
    the usb stick might not be sdb). My stick was formatted as ext4 previously.

    Then you enter "exit", and the installation continues, with logs being
    written to the stick. At some point I aborted (I got again to that
    initial shell, just enter "exit" again), and power off when told.

    Then I connected the stick to the main computer and I could read the
    logs just fine.

    It is not difficult at all.

    However, I do not have a UEFI system to try how different it is there.
    I'm unsure if vmplayer can emulate it.


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    I'll try the stick logging thing. It would be nice to find out at least where the wheels fall off.

    I'll let vmware slide. I haven't messed with it at all, so introducing it would, in all likelihood, just add one more level of chaos.

    In truth, this upgrade isn't a make or break thing, although I'd like to get at least any relevant security updates12.1 will not see. Otherwise, this box acts as private mail server and occasional browse and mail box. Thus I have a fairly low threshold of "basta - it ain't worth it".
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  9. #19

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    Using "startshell=1" as a boot option is a non-starter. The results are exactly the same: the kernel appears to be loading (little bar expands to the right as the percent loaded increments) and then the machine reboots. Letting things continue after rebooting is just an exercise in "wash, rinse, repeat". I'm going to burn a 12.3 .iso I grabbed before seeing 13.1 was on its way. It may boot, it may be YAC (Yet Another Coaster).
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    Default Re: 13.1 DVD says welcome & dies

    On 2013-12-07 22:56, RBEmerson wrote:
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    > Using "startshell=1" as a boot option is a non-starter. The results are
    > exactly the same: the kernel appears to be loading (little bar expands
    > to the right as the percent loaded increments) and then the machine
    > reboots. Letting things continue after rebooting is just an exercise in
    > "wash, rinse, repeat".


    Too bad :-(

    > I'm going to burn a 12.3 .iso I grabbed before
    > seeing 13.1 was on its way. It may boot, it may be YAC (Yet Another
    > Coaster).


    let's hope. If it works, please report the issue for 13.1 in Bugzilla.

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    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

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