Cannot assign a printer in the settings. On 13.1 w/ KDE 4.11.2 & desktop kernel. Plus, the help files are not in their respective subdirectories and cannot be access from the file pull down menu. What else is needed for someone to venture a guess as to what may be wrong.
Nobody scanning notice this problem? Maybe I’m in the wrong forum.
chuckenheimer wrote:
What else is needed for someone to venture a guess as to what may be
wrong.
People might be more willing to help out if they know
==>What type of device you are using?
==>What is the brand of device you are using?
==>What is the model no of device you are using?
==>What steps you have done to configure your device ?
==>Are you using a hw “button” on the device to scan and print ?
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GNOME 3.10.1
openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) 64-bit
Kernel Linux 3.11.6-4-desktop
On 2013-12-03 04:46, chuckenheimer wrote:
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> Nobody scanning notice this problem? Maybe I’m in the wrong forum.
People read your post, but maybe they don’t know about it. I don’t.
AFAIK, I don’t know exactly what feature you are talking about, and
then, I can not try to reproduce as I don’t use 13.1 daily. maybe if you
try to explain it better someone might know something or try it out.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Don’t know what the op is trying to achieve.
I will just go with the thread title.
I don’t see a scan to print in xsane, you can do this
thru gimp maybe in
file-create-xsane device dialog
or use simple scan it has the scan and print feature
Fujitsu 5120c /w SCSI connection to box. I have the scanning functioning perfectly. Not too impressed with the output, but that’s another issue for discussion later.
No, not using the hardware button to scan, don’t need to because the ones in the applications (Xsane, Skanlite) perform properly. The problem is as I discussed in the topic header which should have been scan to copy but the difference is really academic. They are one in the same.
Won’t reiterate the problem but for to say that they are flagrant enough that I would have expected someone at least to have run across them prior to me, or at least have posted here in the forum about same. I am just saying that the program is not ready for prime time as evidenced by its failure to perform on this distribution of Linux and with that, I am totally surprised.
Thanks for the assistance I have received to date from these forums because it has been a great help for me to get this old box up and running with the hardware it has, which is quite long in the tooth as is. I appreciate it.
Just saw a Linux version of simple scan but it seems to be source for Ubuntu distro. I have no experience with building an application from source and don’t have the time to invest at this juncture, so I’ll stay with what’s available in the repository. Keeps things to a minimum of time invested, and, the version is the newest available.
Haven’t yet learned gimp but am slowly making headway with what I’ve done to date. Only been using Linux since just before the release of 13.1 and having tried to install Ubuntu - I’ll not do that for a long time with the problems had with it refusing to install at all - I’m a relative newby.
Can’t leave the discussion right here without an update:
Installed Simple Scan and got the function to work properly as is. Now the problem with the scan is another topic and I’ll jump to Applications Forum for that. Thanks!
On 2013-12-04 01:26, chuckenheimer wrote:
> No, not using the hardware button to scan, don’t need to because the
> ones in the applications (Xsane, Skanlite) perform properly. The problem
> is as I discussed in the topic header which should have been scan to
> copy but the difference is really academic. They are one in the same.
Ah, you are attempting to use the function “scan to copy” in xsane.
xsane is old software, a classic. It is not “cute”.
The printer is configured in Preferences / Setup / Copy. You are to
enter your printer data by hand, typing the printer name. No cute
droplist. The xsane program will simple call the program you tell it
(lpr) to print directly, no niceties.
I don’t know if I have tried this feature ever; instead, I scan to file
from inside gimp, then import the photo in Libre Office document writer
(link to page, original size). Maybe I’ll try xsane one day and tell
here how it goes.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Version 0,998 still old? Cute? Not but I think should allow for drop lists with installed printers, don’t you think?
What’s the purpose of the New Printer drop down button in the top right corner then? Those already assigned?
Whew, enter printer data by hand. I suppose that I need help here, too. Not cute nor comprehensive. No wonder the computing world thinks Linux users are too smart to need such things as already defined printer objects available for selection in other programs such as here. I’m sorry for my lack of education but I really do want to learn AND be productive at the same time.
Scanning from within Gimp, I saw no option to scan from its file menu. Where might this function be located?
Thanks again for your patience and assistance.
After experimenting with Gimp and Xsane just recently, I see that the configurability is all over the map, more than needed for the casual user. Guess I’m going to try Simple Scan until I have the basics down.
What about the help documents not being available from the File Menu drop down?
See my first post about gimp above
It will call xsane as soon as you click and use xsane to scan and bring the scanned /text/image inside gimp where you can modify or print.
File > Create > Xsane…
Graphic Help often is packaged in a separate package look in Yast software management and see if there is a DOC package for the app in question. Also for command line programs there is always man packagename
I found the following:
but the complexity involved is beyond my meager education, plus I think this is for something other than the help from within Xsane’s File/Help menu drop down commands. Here again I find it most strange that I get a program for Linux that has this sort of difficulty from the start. I do want to thank you for the continued assistance because regardless of my ineptitude, I am making progress and for that I am happy.
On 2013-12-04 05:06, chuckenheimer wrote:
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> robin_listas;2605045 Wrote:
>> Ah, you are attempting to use the function “scan to copy” in xsane.
>>
>> xsane is old software, a classic. It is not “cute”.
>
> Version 0,998 still old? Cute? Not but I think should allow for drop
> lists with installed printers, don’t you think?
xsane has been there and the same for way over a decade. It just works,
so they don’t feel the need to “improve” it.
> What’s the purpose of the New Printer drop down button in the top right
> corner then? Those already assigned?
Create an empty config page. You fill it. 
> robin_listas;2605045 Wrote:
>> The printer is configured in Preferences / Setup / Copy. You are to
>> enter your printer data by hand, typing the printer name. No cute
>> droplist. The xsane program will simple call the program you tell it
>> (lpr) to print directly, no niceties.
>
> Whew, enter printer data by hand. I suppose that I need help here, too.
It is as simple as typing the printer name.
Run “lpstat -a”, it lists the available printers in your system. Choose
one, type the name in the printer name field, that’s all.
I just tried it, and it printed what I scanned correctly.
You can then adjust the other parameters if you need.
> Not cute nor comprehensive. No wonder the computing world thinks Linux
> users are too smart to need such things as already defined printer
> objects available for selection in other programs such as here. I’m
> sorry for my lack of education but I really do want to learn AND be
> productive at the same time.
Well, Linux is made mostly by volunteers, so we have what we have. This
tool just works and does not waste time. People wanting a more flashy
tool have to convince someone with the skills to design a new tool.
Xsane is not that.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On 2013-12-04 05:46, chuckenheimer wrote:
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> After experimenting with Gimp and Xsane just recently, I see that the
> configurability is all over the map, more than needed for the casual
> user. Guess I’m going to try Simple Scan until I have the basics down.
LibreOffice, writer.
Insert / Picture / Scan / Select source.
You get a scan dialog, for settings.
Then:
Insert / Picture / Scan / Request.
The scanner scans. Then double click on the image, select “anchor to
page”, and “original size”.
This does not use xsane interface.
> What about the help documents not being available from the File Menu
> drop down?
The documentation is here: “/usr/share/sane/xsane/doc/*”, at least in
12.3, but requesting “help” in xsane does not work. Well, that’s a bug.
You can report bugs in Bugzilla.
openSUSE:Submitting bug
reports
Meanwhile, you can point firefox to “file:///usr/share/sane/xsane/doc/*”
and browse it.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Thanks for the hand holding. I must say that I am making headway with the scanning. The “anchor to page” function was not obvious to me until you suggested it but the “original size” attribute escapes me as to its location. I did notice that on the “anchor to page” had a default of “paragraph” which I would like to change. Once I can find the “original size” selection, I may be successful with this task.
On 2013-12-04 16:16, chuckenheimer wrote:
> Thanks for the hand holding. I must say that I am making headway with
> the scanning. The “anchor to page” function was not obvious to me until
> you suggested it but the “original size” attribute escapes me as to its
> location. I did notice that on the “anchor to page” had a default of
> “paragraph” which I would like to change. Once I can find the “original
> size” selection, I may be successful with this task.
It is a button on the left hand side. Wait a minute.
Ok, looking at it right now. Unless they have changed it on 13.1, it is
double click on the image, and then on the picture dialog you get, make
sure you display the “type” tab.
Then on the right side you have the anchor, and on the left side you get
the size settings (and position on the bottom). There is a button for
“original size” on left side. Both settings are needed to get a
“photocopy” of same size and position as the original scanned paper.
I’m using the gnome “flavouring” for libreoffice, in kde the dialog
might look different. I can provide a photo if you still do not find it.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)