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    Default 20131030 Software update causes KDE (X?) to crash using openSuSE 12.3

    I use openSuSE 12.3/KDE (64bit) as a development environment and am in the
    habit of running software updates on it daily (using Apper.) After updating
    on the morning of 20131030, when doing certain operations (there are two
    that I've identified so far: 1) Using Chrome v30/v31 to access a specific GWT
    based web application; and 2) Trying to run a VMware 9/10 VM) result in my KDE
    session crashing, forcing me to login again. Firefox v25.0 can access the websites
    that cause Chrome grief without problems.

    When I inspect the system logs after this occurring, both kdm.log and
    Xorg.0.log show a "Segmentation" fault occurring which I believe to be the
    root cause of the problem I'm seeing.

    I've logged a bug about this, but have gotten no response. I'm curious
    whether anybody else has seen this problem or knows of a workaround.

    I know of multiple systems that are in this state, all running openSuSE
    12.3 and all working fine before the 20131030 update.

    I copied the following out of my Xorg.0.log.old file:

    [ 293.705] (EE)
    [ 293.705] (EE) Backtrace:
    [ 293.705] (EE) 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x36) [0x58f946]
    [ 293.705] (EE) 1: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x1937b9) [0x5937b9]
    [ 293.705] (EE) 2: /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x7fa582e39000+0xf1f0) [0x7fa582e481f0]
    [ 293.705] (EE)
    [ 293.705] (EE) Segmentation fault at address 0x0
    [ 293.705]
    Fatal server error:
    [ 293.705] Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting
    [ 293.705]
    [ 293.705] (EE)
    Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
    at xorg
    for help.
    [ 293.705] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
    [ 293.705] (EE)

    Note I see this logged EVERYTIME this error occurs.


    Since I update fairly regularly, there were only a few updates (installed
    by apper) that could be causing this. In particular, the 20131030 update
    I ran (that included whatever broke this as this operations worked previous
    to the update) modified the following packages:

    xorg-x11-server
    xorg-x11-server-extra
    timezone
    timezone-java
    openSUSE-2013-807
    openSUSE-2013-809

    I'm CERTAIN it was this set of updates that caused the problems with my
    system as the operations I describe that cause it are things I
    do multiple times a day, including on the days before these updates were
    installed.

    I've tried backing out to previous versions (I've tried 3 older versions
    so far) of xorg-x11-server and xorg-x11-server-extra, but the problem persists.

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    Default Re: 20131030 Software update causes KDE (X?) to crash using openSuSE12.3

    On 2013-11-12 21:36, drfoster wrote:

    > I'm CERTAIN it was this set of updates that caused the problems with my
    > system as the operations I describe that cause it are things I
    > do multiple times a day, including on the days before these updates were
    > installed.


    What repos do you have enabled? Please run:

    Code:
    zypper lr --details
    and paste it all here, inside code tags (the '#' button in the editor).

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    Default Re: 20131030 Software update causes KDE (X?) to crash using openSuSE 12.3

    The output from zypper lr --details is as follows:

    Code:
    #  | Alias                     | Name                               | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                                                 | Service
    ---+---------------------------+------------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | Google_Chrome             | Google Chrome                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64                                                                 |        
     2 | NVIDIA_Drivers            | NVIDIA Drivers                     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.3/                                                                            |        
     3 | openSUSE-12.3-1.7         | openSUSE-12.3-1.7                  | No      | No      |   99     | yast2  | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-HL-DT-ST_DVD+_-RW_GH82N_K12C7IN3840                                              |        
     4 | openSuSE_12.3_DVD         | openSuSE 12.3 DVD                  | Yes     | No      |   99     | yast2  | iso:///?iso=openSUSE-12.3-DVD-x86_64.iso&url=file:///home/drfoster/Downloads/Novell/Linux/openSuSE/openSuSE%2012.3/ |        
     5 | repo-debug                | openSUSE-12.3-Debug                | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/12.3/repo/oss/                                                      |        
     6 | repo-debug-update         | openSUSE-12.3-Update-Debug         | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.3/                                                                     |        
     7 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-12.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.3-non-oss/                                                             |        
     8 | repo-non-oss              | openSUSE-12.3-Non-Oss              | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/non-oss/                                                        |        
     9 | repo-oss                  | openSUSE-12.3-Oss                  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/oss/                                                            |        
    10 | repo-source               | openSUSE-12.3-Source               | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.3/repo/oss/                                                     |        
    11 | repo-update               | openSUSE-12.3-Update               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3/                                                                           |        
    12 | repo-update-non-oss       | openSUSE-12.3-Update-Non-Oss       | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3-non-oss/                                                                   |

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    Quote Originally Posted by drfoster View Post
    The output from zypper lr --details is as follows:

    Code:
    #  | Alias                     | Name                               | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                                                 | Service
    ---+---------------------------+------------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | Google_Chrome             | Google Chrome                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64                                                                 |        
     2 | NVIDIA_Drivers            | NVIDIA Drivers                     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.3/                                                                            |        
     3 | openSUSE-12.3-1.7         | openSUSE-12.3-1.7                  | No      | No      |   99     | yast2  | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-HL-DT-ST_DVD+_-RW_GH82N_K12C7IN3840                                              |        
     4 | openSuSE_12.3_DVD         | openSuSE 12.3 DVD                  | Yes     | No      |   99     | yast2  | iso:///?iso=openSUSE-12.3-DVD-x86_64.iso&url=file:///home/drfoster/Downloads/Novell/Linux/openSuSE/openSuSE%2012.3/ |        
     5 | repo-debug                | openSUSE-12.3-Debug                | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/12.3/repo/oss/                                                      |        
     6 | repo-debug-update         | openSUSE-12.3-Update-Debug         | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.3/                                                                     |        
     7 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-12.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.3-non-oss/                                                             |        
     8 | repo-non-oss              | openSUSE-12.3-Non-Oss              | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/non-oss/                                                        |        
     9 | repo-oss                  | openSUSE-12.3-Oss                  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/oss/                                                            |        
    10 | repo-source               | openSUSE-12.3-Source               | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.3/repo/oss/                                                     |        
    11 | repo-update               | openSUSE-12.3-Update               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3/                                                                           |        
    12 | repo-update-non-oss       | openSUSE-12.3-Update-Non-Oss       | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3-non-oss/                                                                   |
    You can use the command to list all installed apps, in reverse order of install.

    Code:
    rpm -q --all --last
    I have a Zypper bash script with all sorts of useful system fixit options:

    Zypper Command - Zypper Package Management Menu System - Version 2.00 - Blogs - openSUSE Forums

    Thank You,
    My Blog: https://forums.opensuse.org/blogs/jdmcdaniel3/

    Software efficiency halves every 18 months, thus compensating for Moore's Law

    Its James again from Austin, Texas

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    Default Re: 20131030 Software update causes KDE (X?) to crash using openSuSE12.3

    On 2013-11-12 21:36, drfoster wrote:

    I don't see anything wrong with your repo setup.

    > I've logged a bug about this, but have gotten no response. I'm curious
    > whether anybody else has seen this problem or knows of a workaround.


    I noticed that you are using the nvidia proprietary driver. This means
    that the devs may reject to look at your report because of that.

    You might try a different version of the driver. :-?

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    Default Re: 20131030 Software update causes KDE (X?) to crash using openSuSE 12.3

    Hello drforster, I have exactly the same problem and a similar setup (Opensuse 12.3 64-bit) : after the update today: the x-server/kde crashes upon start of any VM within vmware 9.x You mentioned that you filed a bug, what its the number? Bye, Thommie

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    Default Re: 20131030 Software update causes KDE (X?) to crash using openSuSE12.3

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2013-11-12 21:36, drfoster wrote:
    I noticed that you are using the nvidia proprietary driver. This means
    that the devs may reject to look at your report because of that.

    You might try a different version of the driver. :-?
    I have since upgraded to the latest Nvidia drivers (the Nvidia server settings application reports driver version 331.20.) I made no difference.

    I use the proprietary drivers because when I installed openSuSE 12.3, the Nvidia drivers installed with it would not boot into graphics mode. Immediately upon installing the proprietary drivers, graphics mode worked. I've stayed with them ever since.

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    Default Re: 20131030 Software update causes KDE (X?) to crash using openSuSE 12.3

    Quote Originally Posted by thommierother View Post
    Hello drforster, I have exactly the same problem and a similar setup (Opensuse 12.3 64-bit) : after the update today: the x-server/kde crashes upon start of any VM within vmware 9.x You mentioned that you filed a bug, what its the number? Bye, Thommie
    See bug 848302 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848302). I believe you already found it as I see your comments there.

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    Default Re: 20131030 Software update causes KDE (X?) to crash using openSuSE 12.3

    Quote Originally Posted by jdmcdaniel3 View Post
    You can use the command to list all installed apps, in reverse order of install.

    Code:
    rpm -q --all --last
    I ran the "rpm -q --all --last" to capture and post the information, but the output was too large to include. The max I can post is 15000 characters and the output from the rpm comment was 178312 characters. I was able to attach a file containing this output to the bug report I mentioned earlier. See comment#10 in bug#848302 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848302).

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    Smile Re: 20131030 Software update causes KDE (X?) to crash using openSuSE 12.3

    Quote Originally Posted by drfoster View Post
    I ran the "rpm -q --all --last" to capture and post the information, but the output was too large to include. The max I can post is 15000 characters and the output from the rpm comment was 178312 characters. I was able to attach a file containing this output to the bug report I mentioned earlier. See comment#10 in bug#848302 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848302).
    Another option is to post the text here with link in a forum message: SUSE Paste

    Thank You,
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