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    Default Re: OpenSuse 12.3 and Unison

    Same user? KDE3 and KDE4 config files may be different/ Try a different user and don't run kde3 under that user

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 12.3 and Unison

    On 2013-11-23 01:36, robertsmits wrote:

    > Carlos, your experience and mine are quite different. I'm NOT doing
    > something wrong in unison. It still works just fine with Opensuse 12.2.
    > Nor do I need to use an editor to enter the filenames I'm going to
    > synchronize - as you quite correctly point out unison has a wizard for
    > that, which works just fine.
    >
    > There is something wrong with unison on Opensuse 12.3 KDE4 because the
    > wizard doesn't work. As soon as you try to select any file in the wizard
    > unison shuts down and disappears.


    There is something wrong with your description, too. Or we are not
    talking about the same program.

    You can not select files at all!

    I did not tell you to enter the filenames in the editor, either!

    unison works with paths, not with files. It keeps entire directories,
    and all that hang below, synced between two different directories,
    perhaps on two different computers.

    You can not point it at a single file!

    You configure it to keep synced two different directories. You start it,
    select the profile, and then it automatically decides what to copy in
    what direction. You accept, refuse, or change the direction of single
    files. The direction, not the files.


    If you want to select single files, you are using the wrong tool.

    It is not a backup tool, either. Wrong tool.


    I have used since about 11.2 in all the opensuse versions with no
    problems at all.


    It is the perfect tool to keep synced your document folder between your
    laptop and your desktop. You edit a file at home, you delete another.
    Fire up unison, select the "documents" profile, go. The edited file is
    copied to the laptop, the deleted file is also deleted in the laptop.

    Then you continue working at the job, add 3 files, edit another, delete
    two others.

    You get home, sync with the desktop: all those changes are passed to the
    desktop. Unison knows what to do and where to apply the changes.

    But it is not a backup tool.


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    Default Re: OpenSuse 12.3 and Unison

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2013-11-23 01:36, robertsmits wrote:

    > Carlos, your experience and mine are quite different. I'm NOT doing
    > something wrong in unison. It still works just fine with Opensuse 12.2.
    > Nor do I need to use an editor to enter the filenames I'm going to
    > synchronize - as you quite correctly point out unison has a wizard for
    > that, which works just fine.
    >
    > There is something wrong with unison on Opensuse 12.3 KDE4 because the
    > wizard doesn't work. As soon as you try to select any file in the wizard
    > unison shuts down and disappears.


    There is something wrong with your description, too. Or we are not
    talking about the same program.

    You can not select files at all!

    I did not tell you to enter the filenames in the editor, either!

    unison works with paths, not with files. It keeps entire directories,
    and all that hang below, synced between two different directories,
    perhaps on two different computers.

    You can not point it at a single file!

    I know that, and I am pointing it at directories, not single files!

    You configure it to keep synced two different directories. You start it,
    select the profile, and then it automatically decides what to copy in
    what direction. You accept, refuse, or change the direction of single
    files. The direction, not the files.

    Exactly!

    If you want to select single files, you are using the wrong tool.

    It is not a backup tool, either. Wrong tool.

    You may not use it as a backup tool, but I do. I use it to keep my files current - on my laptops, on my home server, and on a USB backup drive.

    I have used since about 11.2 in all the opensuse versions with no
    problems at all.

    So have I.

    It is the perfect tool to keep synced your document folder between your
    laptop and your desktop. You edit a file at home, you delete another.
    Fire up unison, select the "documents" profile, go. The edited file is
    copied to the laptop, the deleted file is also deleted in the laptop.

    Then you continue working at the job, add 3 files, edit another, delete
    two others.

    You get home, sync with the desktop: all those changes are passed to the
    desktop. Unison knows what to do and where to apply the changes.

    I agree with everything you said above.

    But it is not a backup tool.


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    It is for me, but that's not the problem. The problem is that unison crashes when you try to use the wizard or update files under OpenSuse 12.3 kDE4.

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 12.3 and Unison

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2013-11-23 01:36, robertsmits wrote:

    >> Carlos, your experience and mine are quite different. I'm NOT doing
    >> something wrong in unison. It still works just fine with Opensuse 12.2.
    >> Nor do I need to use an editor to enter the filenames I'm going to
    >> synchronize - as you quite correctly point out unison has a wizard for
    >> that, which works just fine.
    >
    >> There is something wrong with unison on Opensuse 12.3 KDE4 because the
    >> wizard doesn't work. As soon as you try to select any file in the wizard
    >> unison shuts down and disappears.

    > There is something wrong with your description, too. Or we are not
    > talking about the same program.

    But we are!

    > You can not select files at all!

    > I did not tell you to enter the filenames in the editor, either!

    > unison works with paths, not with files. It keeps entire directories,
    > and all that hang below, synced between two different directories,
    > perhaps on two different computers.

    > You can not point it at a single file!

    I know that, and I am pointing it at directories, not single files. I was talking about groups of files, not single files.

    > You configure it to keep synced two different directories. You start it,
    > select the profile, and then it automatically decides what to copy in
    > what direction. You accept, refuse, or change the direction of single
    > files. The direction, not the files.

    Exactly!

    > If you want to select single files, you are using the wrong tool.

    I don't want to select single files, I just want to be able to select directories in the wizard exactly the same as unison does under Opensuse 12.2.

    > It is not a backup tool, either. Wrong tool.

    You may not use it as a backup tool, but I do. I use it to keep my files current - on my laptops, on my home server, and on a USB backup drive.

    > I have used since about 11.2 in all the opensuse versions with no problems at all.

    So have I.

    > It is the perfect tool to keep synced your document folder between your
    > laptop and your desktop. You edit a file at home, you delete another.
    > Fire up unison, select the "documents" profile, go. The edited file is
    > copied to the laptop, the deleted file is also deleted in the laptop.

    > Then you continue working at the job, add 3 files, edit another, delete
    > two others.

    > You get home, sync with the desktop: all those changes are passed to the
    > desktop. Unison knows what to do and where to apply the changes.

    I agree with everything you said above.

    That said, I DO use it as a backup tool, so that I keep all my files at the latest version, on my laptops, my desktops and my work machine.

    However I never wanted to argue about it's purpose, i just want to make it work again. The problem is that unison no longer works under OpenSuse 12.3 KDE4, and there are other reports on the internet that this is so, and I just want to figure out WHY this is happening.

    I'm not doing something differently under Opensuse 12.3 KDE4 than I did under Opensuse 12.2 KDE4 - I use exactly the same disk partitions and directory names, but under Opensuse 12.3 KDE4 Unison no longer works.
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    Default Re: OpenSuse 12.3 and Unison

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    Same user? KDE3 and KDE4 config files may be different/ Try a different user and don't run kde3 under that user
    I don't understand your response. Unison works fine with KDE3 running Opensuse 12.3. It does not work under Opensuse 12.3 KDE4, even after re-installing Opensuse 12.3 KDE4 several times - with and without KDE3.

    To me, this points to the error being somewhere in OpenSuse 12.3 KDE4 - something that has been changed or deleted without our knowledge.
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    Default Re: OpenSuse 12.3 and Unison

    On 2013-11-25 02:26, robertsmits wrote:
    > I'm not doing something differently under Opensuse 12.3 KDE4 than I did
    > under Opensuse 12.2 KDE4 - I use exactly the same disk partitions and
    > directory names, but under Opensuse 12.3 KDE4 Unison no longer works.


    I'm baffled. I read your post a bit lightly, I want to go to sleep. But
    I got an idea I want to share first: try an updated version of unison,
    from "network" repo perhaps. Mmm... dunno if they are the same version :-?

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 12.3 and Unison

    On 2013-11-25 02:36, robertsmits wrote:

    > I don't understand your response. Unison works fine with KDE3 running
    > Opensuse 12.3. It does not work under Opensuse 12.3 KDE4, even after
    > re-installing Opensuse 12.3 KDE4 several times - with and without KDE3.


    Can you start it from a terminal? See if it writes some error to the
    terminal.

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    Default Re: OpenSuse 12.3 and Unison

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2013-11-25 02:36, robertsmits wrote:

    > I don't understand your response. Unison works fine with KDE3 running
    > Opensuse 12.3. It does not work under Opensuse 12.3 KDE4, even after
    > re-installing Opensuse 12.3 KDE4 several times - with and without KDE3.


    Can you start it from a terminal? See if it writes some error to the
    terminal.

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    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
    When I try to start it from a terminal as in unison CrossOver (CrossOver is the name of the profile)
    what I get is this:

    Fatal error

    Cannot find canonical name of /media/0702999e-1914-45ce-9c77-7c7fb3a1164e/Backup/CrossOver: unable to cd either to it

    (/media/0702999e-1914-45ce-9c77-7c7fb3a1164e/Backup/CrossOver: Permission denied)
    or to its parent /media/0702999e-1914-45ce-9c77-7c7fb3a1164e/Backup
    (/media/0702999e-1914-45ce-9c77-7c7fb3a1164e/Backup: Permission denied)

    However, I can open Dolphin, go to the directory and read and write files.
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    Default Re: OpenSuse 12.3 and Unison

    I've discovered something, thanks to your last suggestion!

    If I use dolphin to open the files, I go to this location:/media/rsmits/0702999e-1914-45ce-9c77-7c7fb3a1164e/Backup/CrossOver

    The location of this USB drive used to be /media/0702999e-1914-45ce-9c77-7c7fb3a1164e/Backup/CrossOver

    There's something going on that's renaming the location of the USB drive!

    That probably explains why unison can't find it.

    Bob
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    Default Re: OpenSuse 12.3 and Unison

    On 2013-11-25 20:26, robertsmits wrote:

    > There's something going on that's renaming the location of the USB
    > drive!
    >
    > That probably explains why unison can't find it.


    Well, you found something :-)


    It is strange that you have something under /media, because 12.3 by
    default uses a user path under /run somewhere.

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