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Thread: Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

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    Default Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

    Hi All,

    I just installed opensuse 13.1 to a brand new hard-drive on a dell precision 380. OS 13.1 boots to the desktop after login, but the problems start from there:


    • Networking is not active
    • There are no icons on the panel, if I move the mouse pointer to where the menu icon should be and click, the kickoff menu sort of paints itself on-the-fly as I move the mouse up or down. I am assuming this is a graphics driver problem, this dell has a NVIDIA Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 285] (rev a1), which is a bit old but works perfectly with opensuse 12.3 using the nouveau driver. As I don't have networking up and can't start apper, I can't install the nvidia driver??
    • The icons on the folder view widget are ok and the desktop widget menu at the top of the screen also works properly.


    Any ideas how I can get the graphics fixed for 13.1? Opensuse 12.3 was and is brilliant, as I installed 13.1 to a new drive I still have 12.3 as a backup system.

    Cheers for any help in advance.

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    Default Re: Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

    On 2013-11-19 16:56, londondaveuk wrote:

    > - Networking is not active


    Please expand on that.

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    Default Re: Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

    Quote Originally Posted by londondaveuk View Post
    Networking is not active
    As Carlos wrote already, you should provide more information.
    Are you trying to use wired or wireless?
    Did it work on 12.3 or did you have to install an additional driver or firmware?
    What network card?
    Are you using ifup or NetworkManager? Have you tried switching between them?
    Is your card shown in YaST, can you configure it there?

    And there's a section in the release notes regarding network, maybe it helps:
    Code:
    4.3. Duplicated Network Interfaces
    
    The current version of systemd uses a new convention for assigning
    predictable names to network interfaces. YaST is changed accordingly.
    
    
    Some reports indicate a bug in YaST when conversion from one naming scheme
    to another takes place. If the same network interface has two different
    names, you have been hit by this bug. In this case remove the different
    network interfaces in /etc/sysconfig/network and use YaST to configure the
    network anew.
    
    
    For more information about predictable network interface names, see http://
    www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
    .

    • There are no icons on the panel, if I move the mouse pointer to where the menu icon should be and click, the kickoff menu sort of paints itself on-the-fly as I move the mouse up or down. I am assuming this is a graphics driver problem, this dell has a NVIDIA Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 285] (rev a1), which is a bit old but works perfectly with opensuse 12.3 using the nouveau driver. As I don't have networking up and can't start apper, I can't install the nvidia driver??
    • The icons on the folder view widget are ok and the desktop widget menu at the top of the screen also works properly.


    Any ideas how I can get the graphics fixed for 13.1? Opensuse 12.3 was and is brilliant, as I installed 13.1 to a new drive I still have 12.3 as a backup system.
    Apparently this is a graphics driver issue.
    I would suggest to install the proprietary nvidia driver, but there are no RPMs available yet for 13.1.

    Try booting with "nomodeset" or select "Recovery Mode" under Advanced Options.
    Try disabling "Desktop Effects" (Shift+Alt+F12 or in "Configure Desktop").
    Or try switching the "Composite type" to XRender.

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    Default Re: Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

    Hi and thanks for the replies.

    I am using wired networking, my NIC is a Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10). With 12.3 I went over to Network Manager service after reading this article:

    10 things to do after installing openSUSE 12.3 - Muktware

    After that networking worked perfectly in 12.3 and I didn't have to install any other drivers. I tried changing over to the Network Manager in OS 13.1 from a console using the commands given in the article above, but that failed.

    I am going to try the graphics tips you suggested at the login screen, but I can't get any desktop applications to work properly so I can adjust the default graphics settings - the desktop is unusable. Until I can install nvidia driver or fix the present graphics issue I am stuck with the command line in 13.1.

    I recently installed the latest ubuntu distro on this Dell, to test out the new hard-drive, and didn't have any graphics problems.

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    Default AW: Re: Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

    Quote Originally Posted by londondaveuk View Post
    Hi and thanks for the replies.

    I am using wired networking, my NIC is a Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10). With 12.3 I went over to Network Manager service after reading this article:

    10 things to do after installing openSUSE 12.3 - Muktware

    After that networking worked perfectly in 12.3 and I didn't have to install any other drivers. I tried changing over to the Network Manager in OS 13.1 from a console using the commands given in the article above, but that failed.
    Those instructions don't really apply anymore for 13.1. They were needed to work around a bug in the installation.
    You can just as well use YaST->Network->Network Settings to switch between NetworkManager and ifup (Global Options tab).
    But if you only have the one wired connection, you might just as well use ifup.

    I am going to try the graphics tips you suggested at the login screen, but I can't get any desktop applications to work properly so I can adjust the default graphics settings - the desktop is unusable. Until I can install nvidia driver or fix the present graphics issue I am stuck with the command line in 13.1.
    Have you tried to press "Alt+Shift+F12"? That should turn off Desktop Effects.
    And as already mentioned, try to boot to "Recovery Mode" ("Advanced Options" in the boot menu).

    I recently installed the latest ubuntu distro on this Dell, to test out the new hard-drive, and didn't have any graphics problems.
    Well, different distributions contain different versions of the kernel and graphics stack/drivers.
    And especially nouveau is problematic since ever. But hopefully the situation will improve in the future, because NVIDIA recently announced that they finally are going to support nouveau's development.

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    Default Re: Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

    Quote Originally Posted by londondaveuk View Post


    • Networking is not active
    • There are no icons on the panel, if I move the mouse pointer to where the menu icon should be and click, the kickoff menu sort of paints itself on-the-fly as I move the mouse up or down. I am assuming this is a graphics driver problem, this dell has a NVIDIA Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 285] (rev a1), which is a bit old but works perfectly with opensuse 12.3 using the nouveau driver. As I don't have networking up and can't start apper, I can't install the nvidia driver??
    • The icons on the folder view widget are ok and the desktop widget menu at the top of the screen also works properly.

    This is a good description of the problems I encountered while installing RC2. I can't help you with networking, because after a while and with an intervention in fstab that seemingly was unrelated and a reboot connection suddenly came back up, but I solved the problem with KDE by going to a terminal [crtl][alt][F1] and entering
    kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled false
    kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key CheckIsSafe true
    kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key OpenGLIsUnsafe false


    It isn't pretty, but starting in Recovery mode didn't help me.

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    Default Re: Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

    Maybe networking problem is related to paragraph 2.2 of "Releases Notes" ?
    2.2. No Network after Installation

    CHECKIT:12.3

    Directly after installation, NetworkManager is not started automatically and thus WiFi cannot be configured. To enable networking (WiFi), reboot the machine once manually.
    https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/openSUSE/13.1/

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    Thumbs up Re: Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install [SOLVED]

    Thanks for the kwriteconfig lines jdeca57, that solved the graphics problem and my opensuse 13.1 desktop is now working fine, although I have no idea what the lines in kwinrc do.

    Yast worked fine for solving the networking glitch wafi323, I just changed over to Network Manager and that sorted out the internet connection immediately.

    Thanks again to everyone that replied - I can't see how I edit my thread title to 'solved' or I would mark it as such.

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    Default Re: Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

    Quote Originally Posted by texwil63 View Post
    Maybe networking problem is related to paragraph 2.2 of "Releases Notes" ?


    https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/openSUSE/13.1/
    No.
    That paragraph is from the 12.3 release notes and does not apply to 13.1.

    It has already been removed from the 13.1 release notes, but that page is not up-to-date yet.
    Just look at the date. It says Oct. 17th.

    The latest release notes update was today, but that specific paragraph already was removed a week ago.

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    Default Re: Opensuse 13.1 KDE unusable after fresh install??

    After my first 13.1 install on my test machine the network manager icon near the clock (not sure whether it's an applet/plasmoid/icon) was ready, and once I selected my wi-fi network and provided the password it connected fine. So confirm network issue from 12.3 is gone.
    Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 r1.0 F9E|AMD Athlon II X4 635|6 GB 667MHz DDR2|XFX Radeon HD 6750|LG GSA-H30N|Netgear WG311T| opensuse 12.2 x86_64 (Intel 330, X-18M)|LG IPS236V 1920x1080 DVI|Logitech MX3000 & MX Air|Freecom USB DVB-T 25452| JBL Spot|Logitech C310

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