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    Default Difference between packages in factory and official release

    Hello All, I would like to know the difference between same software package available in factory and official release categories. As an example I would like to install qbittorrent from software.opensuse.org

    When I search for it, the current official release is 3.0.7 for 12.3 and in 13.1, the latest 3.1.2 is available and also the same with factory.

    Does this mean, when 13.1 gets released officially, the 3.1.2 available in unstable state will become official for 13.1? and 3.0.7 remain the official release for 12.3?

    Am I missing something?

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    Default Re: Difference between packages in factory and official release

    On 11/14/2013 11:16 AM, varunit pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > Hello All, I would like to know the difference between same software
    > package available in factory and official release categories. As an
    > example I would like to install qbittorrent from software.opensuse.org
    >
    > When I search for it, the current official release is 3.0.7 for 12.3 and
    > in 13.1, the latest 3.1.2 is available and also the same with factory.
    >
    > Does this mean, when 13.1 gets released officially, the 3.1.2 available
    > in unstable state will become official for 13.1? and 3.0.7 remain the
    > official release for 12.3?
    >
    > Am I missing something?
    >
    >

    No. What ever is in 13.1 now will stay the same except for back ported
    security fixes. As for installing the newer version from factory into
    13.1 you do so at your own risk.

    Ken

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    Default Re: Difference between packages in factory and official release

    varunit wrote:
    >
    > Hello All, I would like to know the difference between same software
    > package available in factory and official release categories. As an
    > example I would like to install qbittorrent from software.opensuse.org
    >
    > When I search for it, the current official release is 3.0.7 for 12.3 and
    > in 13.1, the latest 3.1.2 is available and also the same with factory.
    >
    > Does this mean, when 13.1 gets released officially, the 3.1.2 available
    > in unstable state will become official for 13.1? and 3.0.7 remain the
    > official release for 12.3?
    >
    > Am I missing something?
    >
    >

    The officially supported packages for any version lie always in the
    corresponding repos :-
    OSS, Non-Oss, Update and Non-OSS Update repos.

    For example if you are using 12.3, the official repos are :-
    12.3 OSS, 12.3 Non-Oss, 12.3 Update and 12.3 Non-OSS Update repos

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    Default Re: Difference between packages in factory and official release

    What ever you do do not leave factory active if you pull updates from ther you can seriously break things. Packages in factory are actually now moving to 13.2. It is aplace that is used to marshel new things and may as a whole not be stable.

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    Default Re: Difference between packages in factory and official release

    Guys, thank you all for the replies.
    I think that I was not clear in sepecifying my question.

    The latest version of qbittorrent from their site is 3.1.2.

    From software.opensuse.org,
    The one avilable for 12.3 as official release is 3.0.7. and there are several other versions ranging from 3.0.4 to 3.1.2 as unstable packages

    Would there be an update from 3.0.7 to 3.1.2 while still in 12.3?


    My next question is,

    Becuase 13.1 is not yet officially released, all the packages are in unstable state ranging from 3.0.4 to 3.1.2.

    So, when I install 13.1 and install qbittorrent from software.opensuse.org, which version do I get? 3.1.2, the latest or the official release 3.0.7 from 12.3?

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    Default Re: Difference between packages in factory and official release

    On 11/14/2013 10:56 PM, varunit pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > Guys, thank you all for the replies.
    > I think that I was not clear in sepecifying my question.
    >
    > The latest version of qbittorrent from their site is 3.1.2.
    >
    > From software.opensuse.org,
    > The one avilable for 12.3 as official release is 3.0.7. and there are
    > several other versions ranging from 3.0.4 to 3.1.2 as unstable packages
    >
    > Would there be an update from 3.0.7 to 3.1.2 while still in 12.3?
    >
    >
    > My next question is,
    >
    > Becuase 13.1 is not yet officially released, all the packages are in
    > unstable state ranging from 3.0.4 to 3.1.2.
    >
    > So, when I install 13.1 and install qbittorrent from
    > software.opensuse.org, which version do I get? 3.1.2, the latest or the
    > official release 3.0.7 from 12.3?
    >
    >

    code:

    zypper se -sd qbittorrent reports:

    qbittorrent | package | 3.0.11-2.1.3 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS)
    qbittorrent | package | 3.0.11-2.1.3 | i586 | Main Repository (OSS)

    So it looks like version 3.0.11 is included with 13.1

    Ken

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    Default Re: Difference between packages in factory and official release

    varunit wrote:
    >
    > Guys, thank you all for the replies.
    > I think that I was not clear in sepecifying my question.
    >
    > The latest version of qbittorrent from their site is 3.1.2.
    >
    > From software.opensuse.org,
    > The one avilable for 12.3 as official release is 3.0.7. and there are
    > several other versions ranging from 3.0.4 to 3.1.2 as unstable packages
    >
    > Would there be an update from 3.0.7 to 3.1.2 while still in 12.3?
    >
    >
    > My next question is,
    >
    > Becuase 13.1 is not yet officially released, all the packages are in
    > unstable state ranging from 3.0.4 to 3.1.2.
    >
    > So, when I install 13.1 and install qbittorrent from
    > software.opensuse.org, which version do I get? 3.1.2, the latest or the
    > official release 3.0.7 from 12.3?
    >
    >

    if you want 3.12 go for one click from network repo under 12.3.

    note:- only official packages under official repos are tested.

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    Default Re: Difference between packages in factory and official release

    On 2013-11-15 04:56, varunit wrote:
    >
    > Guys, thank you all for the replies.
    > I think that I was not clear in sepecifying my question.
    >
    > The latest version of qbittorrent from their site is 3.1.2.
    >
    > From software.opensuse.org,
    > The one avilable for 12.3 as official release is 3.0.7. and there are
    > several other versions ranging from 3.0.4 to 3.1.2 as unstable packages
    >
    > Would there be an update from 3.0.7 to 3.1.2 while still in 12.3?


    No.

    Again, the official packaging for 12.3, or any released version, is
    never upgraded.

    If you want an upgraded package, you have to download it from an extra
    repository that has what you want, if it exists, knowing that the
    testing is lesser. Specifically, it has not been tested in integration
    with the rest of the distro. And you can not submit bug reports against
    the distro, you have to direct them at the repository maintainers.

    You choose.

    >
    >
    > My next question is,
    >
    > Becuase 13.1 is not yet officially released, all the packages are in
    > unstable state ranging from 3.0.4 to 3.1.2.
    >
    > So, when I install 13.1 and install qbittorrent from
    > software.opensuse.org, which version do I get? 3.1.2, the latest or the
    > official release 3.0.7 from 12.3?


    The official version for 13.1 has been frozen for more than a month, and
    will not change for the year and a half of the life cycle, same as for 12.3.

    For the packages in other repositories, it is up to them, and my
    previous paragraph also applies.

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    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

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    Default Re: Difference between packages in factory and official release

    okay, thank you a lot for the help.

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    Default Re: Difference between packages in factory and official release

    Surprisingly, there is no official version for 13.1 When I searched for qbittorrent in
    software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 13.1

    there is an official version for only 12.3 and 13.1 packages are in unstable version list. Am I misunderstanding something?

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