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    Default There will not be acrobat reader in 13.1.

    Hi,

    I don't know if you are aware that acrobat reader will not be available
    in 13.1, because adobe will no longer provide security updates for
    Linux, apparently, and the openSUSE security team has thus decided to
    remove it.

    However, some of us need acroread for several reasons. Two important
    ones are that alternatives do not fully support XFA Forms (no
    javascript), and that signature verification doesn't work.

    There are two long threads on the factory mail list about this, for
    those interested (remember that the people taking the decisions do not
    read here).

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    Default Re: There will not be acrobat reader in 13.1.

    The last time I use acrobat reader was in opensuse 11.4, and I have not missed it at all. So I have no concerns about this.

    Yes, I understand it is a problem for some people.

    Does the Windows version run in "Wine"?
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    Default Re: There will not be acrobat reader in 13.1.

    On 2013-11-08 03:36, nrickert wrote:
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    > The last time I use acrobat reader was in opensuse 11.4, and I have not
    > missed it at all. So I have no concerns about this.
    >
    > Yes, I understand it is a problem for some people.


    I need it to verify the signature on all the non-paper receipts I get,
    and also to fill most government forms here. It is not needed to read
    most documents, only for legal documents. I use it little, but for those
    little specific needs there is no alternative.

    > Does the Windows version run in "Wine"?


    No, it doesn't. At least, not the recent versions, which are those that
    matter.

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    Default Re: There will not be acrobat reader in 13.1.

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post

    I need it to verify the signature on all the non-paper receipts I get,
    and also to fill most government forms here. It is not needed to read
    most documents, only for legal documents. I use it little, but for those
    little specific needs there is no alternative.

    I guess you'll have to push hard for the adoption of open-source documentation along these lines...

    Open-Source Software for Governments in Spain | TechPresident

    Spain's Extremadura Starts Move To GNU/Linux, Open Source - Slashdot

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    Default Re: There will not be acrobat reader in 13.1.

    I think I installed it a couple of years ago for the sake of some Tax or Govt_ documents, but since then these organisations now fully support open documents.

    IIRC Acrobat Reader kept leaving a file in the root dir, just can't recall it's ID
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    Default Re: There will not be acrobat reader in 13.1.

    Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I don't know if you are aware that acrobat reader will not be available
    > in 13.1, because adobe will no longer provide security updates for
    > Linux, apparently, and the openSUSE security team has thus decided to
    > remove it.
    >
    > However, some of us need acroread for several reasons. Two important
    > ones are that alternatives do not fully support XFA Forms (no
    > javascript), and that signature verification doesn't work.
    >
    > There are two long threads on the factory mail list about this, for
    > those interested (remember that the people taking the decisions do not
    > read here).
    >

    It is high time Evince supported digital signatures so that I can kiss
    adobe reader a permanent goodbye

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    Default Re: There will not be acrobat reader in 13.1.

    I'll miss acrobat reader mainly because I have been using it frequently for a long time and am familiar with its very good navigation and printing features. I guess I'll have to learn Okular.

    When I found acroread was not in the 13.1 RC2 non-OSS repository, I downloaded the rpm file from Adobe. It installed fine, and starts OK. However, when exiting, the program goes to a high % of CPU, and keeps running. I used System Monitor to forcibly kill it. There is some discussion of this in the 13.2 RC2 thread starting at https://forums.opensuse.org/english/...ml#post2595083

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    Default Re: There will not be acrobat reader in 13.1.

    On 11/07/2013 11:16 PM, crmrhm wrote:
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    > I'll miss acrobat reader mainly because I have been using it frequently
    > for a long time and am familiar with its very good navigation and
    > printing features. I guess I'll have to learn Okular.
    >
    > When I found acroread was not in the 13.1 RC2 non-OSS repository, I
    > downloaded the rpm file from Adobe. It installed fine, and starts OK.
    > However, when exiting, the program goes to a high % of CPU, and keeps
    > running. I used System Monitor to forcibly kill it. There is some
    > discussion of this in the 13.2 RC2 thread starting at
    > http://tinyurl.com/lekpotv


    Even if the download from Adobe would have worked correctly, I would not
    recommend using it for the following reason: Adobe will continue to fix the
    numerous security holes in the Windows versions. That means that those fixes
    will be known to the black hats. They will also know that anyone using the
    program on Linux will definitely not have fixed those problems. As a result,
    they will have a prescription for attacking your Linux system.


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    Default Re: There will not be acrobat reader in 13.1.

    On 2013-11-08 04:16, deano ferrari wrote:
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    > robin_listas;2596383 Wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> I need it to verify the signature on all the non-paper receipts I get,
    >> and also to fill most government forms here. It is not needed to read
    >> most documents, only for legal documents. I use it little, but for those
    >> little specific needs there is no alternative.
    >>
    >>

    > I guess you'll have to push hard for the adoption of open-source
    > documentation along these lines...


    There is no real alternative to PDF in open source, for this particular
    usage.

    In Windows there are alternative viewers and creators that work, but not
    in Linux. The problem is javascript in forms, and signature - the rest
    works in opensource.

    > 'Open-Source Software for Governments in Spain | TechPresident'
    > (http://tinyurl.com/ozfuapa)
    >
    > 'Spain's Extremadura Starts Move To GNU/Linux, Open Source - Slashdot'
    > (http://tinyurl.com/bud5rct)


    Unfortunately, the current right wing governments do not want Linux. In
    Extremadura Linux is diminishing. This seems to be intentional.

    We can not push hard for opensource solutions because most of the people
    see no need. Windows is gratis, they say, because the pirating ratio
    here is huge.

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    Default Re: There will not be acrobat reader in 13.1.

    On 2013-11-08 05:09, vazhavandan wrote:

    > It is high time Evince supported digital signatures so that I can kiss
    > adobe reader a permanent goodbye


    Indeed.

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